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saiyajinimports · 12-11-2012, 05:29 PM

i think the doors on my supra are way heavier then the FRS.

speedy racer · 12-11-2012, 05:33 PM

These doors feel light weight compared to my Lexus SC300. The SC got to be heaviest doors on a sport coupe. After so many years, the SC door hinge(looks like hinge off an airplane) has to be replaced because of the weight.

raz0rbladez909 · 12-11-2012, 05:34 PM

TC doors are pretty bad too, a coworker of mine has one of those crappy vertical door kits and the shocks are going out on it, feels like I'm doing shoulder presses at the gym lol

czar07 · 12-11-2012, 11:21 PM

SC300/400 doors cannot be beaten in weight + size. Game over GG

armythug · 12-11-2012, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Why hasn't somebody just removed the doors and gone for the Jeep Wrangler look?

This is on my list of things to do if/when I cage an FRS and use it for promotional purposes.

This ^^ and T Tops on the day I take delivery

Buckeye · 12-11-2012, 11:50 PM

I actually think the door operation feeling is too light for American customer market tastes. Retainability on a slope isn't so good as the door check could have a heavier European detent feeling.

FRiSson · 12-12-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr086

heavier than i'm used to at least. any reason for this? you'd think they want them as light as possible.

PM has a point. Scion could have made the interior structure from a magnesium/aluminum alloy for lightness. Cost would have gone up a few thousand though. I expect electric door openers with sensors will be common in a few years.

Neziah · 12-12-2012, 11:54 AM

I like it, it is nice to have a car that sounds like your closing something when you shut the door.

reeves · 12-12-2012, 12:25 PM

No one's really WEIGHED the door have they?
So.. is the door really THAT heavy (relative to other coupes)?.. or is the HINGE (or whatever keeps the door open) just really weak!? Which would cause the door to appear heavy.

muffinman · 12-12-2012, 05:21 PM

has anyone taken apart the door to replace the speaker? in a few cars that i was upgrading the door speakers in there was a flattened weight stuck to the inside of the door. it looked like a flat piece of lead maybe 4X8 inches. maybe manufacturers r adding weight to make the door feel heavier? maybe cause it makes a more solid thunk when it closes? idk. tried to peel it off in 1 car, but it was stuck on there very well and i could only reach in through where the speaker was taken out of

pr086 · 12-12-2012, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffinman

has anyone taken apart the door to replace the speaker? in a few cars that i was upgrading the door speakers in there was a flattened weight stuck to the inside of the door. it looked like a flat piece of lead maybe 4X8 inches. maybe manufacturers r adding weight to make the door feel heavier? maybe cause it makes a more solid thunk when it closes? idk. tried to peel it off in 1 car, but it was stuck on there very well and i could only reach in through where the speaker was taken out of

i can't imagine a car going for low weight like the frs would be adding pointless wait to the door just for it to feel more solid. at least i hope not

muffinman · 12-12-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr086

i can't imagine a car going for low weight like the frs would be adding pointless wait to the door just for it to feel more solid. at least i hope not

i wouldnt think so either but there they were when i looked inside the door lol. maybe they can get away with using thinner gauge sheetmetal in the door, then add the weight so that it doesn feel cheap as shit. i would guess each of them was 3-4 ounces- just guesstimating by picturing lead fishing sinkers rolled to that size

Tim_Asphalt_FRS · 12-12-2012, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muffinman

has anyone taken apart the door to replace the speaker? in a few cars that i was upgrading the door speakers in there was a flattened weight stuck to the inside of the door. it looked like a flat piece of lead maybe 4X8 inches. maybe manufacturers r adding weight to make the door feel heavier? maybe cause it makes a more solid thunk when it closes? idk. tried to peel it off in 1 car, but it was stuck on there very well and i could only reach in through where the speaker was taken out of

There weren't any kind of weights in the doors of my FRS when I replaced the speakers.

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Razz · 12-12-2012, 06:22 PM

For me, they are not heavy. In fact they need to be heavier addig sound insulation.

We need to get rid of the road noise. Make the car refined.

12-11-2012, 05:29 PM	#29
saiyajinimports Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS and 1995 Supra Location: Chicago Posts: 172 Thanks: 73 Thanked 38 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i think the doors on my supra are way heavier then the FRS. __________________ allen castillo 2013 Scion FRS 1995 Toyota Supra

12-11-2012, 05:33 PM	#30
speedy racer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 92 lexus sc300 > whiteout MT FRS Location: charlotte nc Posts: 220 Thanks: 38 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	These doors feel light weight compared to my Lexus SC300. The SC got to be heaviest doors on a sport coupe. After so many years, the SC door hinge(looks like hinge off an airplane) has to be replaced because of the weight. Last edited by speedy racer; 12-11-2012 at 08:56 PM.

12-11-2012, 11:21 PM	#32
czar07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: '97 RSP JZZ30 GT-T Location: Australia Posts: 612 Thanks: 365 Thanked 192 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	SC300/400 doors cannot be beaten in weight + size. Game over GG __________________ Germans>Japanese>Italians>Americans. Unless its a Corvette.

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12-11-2012, 05:34 PM	#31
raz0rbladez909 I'm here for the beer Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS, 1971 Datsun 240z Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 229 Thanks: 386 Thanked 122 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	TC doors are pretty bad too, a coworker of mine has one of those crappy vertical door kits and the shocks are going out on it, feels like I'm doing shoulder presses at the gym lol

12-11-2012, 11:50 PM	#34
Buckeye Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 086A Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I actually think the door operation feeling is too light for American customer market tastes. Retainability on a slope isn't so good as the door check could have a heavier European detent feeling.

12-12-2012, 12:25 PM	#37
reeves Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: ATL, GA Posts: 1,021 Thanks: 289 Thanked 397 Times in 265 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No one's really WEIGHED the door have they? So.. is the door really THAT heavy (relative to other coupes)?.. or is the HINGE (or whatever keeps the door open) just really weak!? Which would cause the door to appear heavy.

12-12-2012, 05:21 PM	#38
muffinman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: - Location: jerz Posts: 120 Thanks: 55 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	has anyone taken apart the door to replace the speaker? in a few cars that i was upgrading the door speakers in there was a flattened weight stuck to the inside of the door. it looked like a flat piece of lead maybe 4X8 inches. maybe manufacturers r adding weight to make the door feel heavier? maybe cause it makes a more solid thunk when it closes? idk. tried to peel it off in 1 car, but it was stuck on there very well and i could only reach in through where the speaker was taken out of

12-12-2012, 06:22 PM	#42
Razz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Fast Location: United States Posts: 480 Thanks: 64 Thanked 101 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For me, they are not heavy. In fact they need to be heavier addig sound insulation. We need to get rid of the road noise. Make the car refined.

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