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Old 11-26-2012, 06:45 PM   #421
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The Essex AP Racing BBK is pretty ridiculous. I don't think the brake pads were even bedded in properly on a heavy braking track. I must give props to Essex for developing such a monster brake kit that actually works quite well with the factory braking system.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:58 PM   #422
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They are making C300 and S100's for OEM rear fitment, but I don't believe that they have been released yet. At least I don't have mine yet Hopefully they'll come in this week or first half of next week and I'll just pick them up at Essex next week.
The S100s for the rear are out. I have them in my car as we speak.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:50 AM   #423
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Jeff or anyone else, are you expecting anymore AP Racing pads for this kit or the OEM rear? I've been reading up and it seems there is a AP Racing H200. It's less aggressive then the C300 and cheaper. I'm just not sure what to match up the rear with the C300, other then the upcoming C300 rear pads
The AP Racing S100 pads in the OEM rear shape are here and shipping. The AP Racing C300 pads are in transit and should ship before the end of the week. I know we held a couple of the orders that had both compounds, to consolidate the shipments.

Finally, the front AP Racing S100's for the Sprint System are also due in tomorrow or Wednesday.

So if you any of the AP Racing pads on back order, you should have them next week. Thanks for your patience!

As for the H200 compound, we pulled that one from the lineup to simplify things. My recommendation would be to run the Ferodo DS2500 if you're looking for a light duty race / autoX pad. The other option would be the CL Brakes RC5+. Those are both excellent choices. They will squeal a bit on the street, but they are livable IMO.
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I got up to step #7 and realized I misplaced my 10mm hex socket so i'll finish it up tonight. Instructions are extremely easy to read and understand. One small question, how much torque should I apply for the pad retention bolt? I'm guessing it's not too important but thought I should ask.

They look so pretty I don't want to use them
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The S100s for the rear are out. I have them in my car as we speak.
Thinking about getting those front and rear when it's time for brakes or i feel the need to upgrade, how is the noise on the street?
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Thinking about getting those front and rear when it's time for brakes or i feel the need to upgrade, how is the noise on the street?
I believe Dave-ROR has them. I dont recall him mentioning anything about any noise tho
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Thinking about getting those front and rear when it's time for brakes or i feel the need to upgrade, how is the noise on the street?
The 300s are LOUD. I have the 100s for the front on the way, it is pretty bad on the street. That said, the brake kit fits and feels amazing. With the 100 in the front I have little doubt it will be excellent for aggressive daily use with quick pad swaps for track days.
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I got up to step #7 and realized I misplaced my 10mm hex socket so i'll finish it up tonight. Instructions are extremely easy to read and understand. One small question, how much torque should I apply for the pad retention bolt? I'm guessing it's not too important but thought I should ask.

They look so pretty I don't want to use them
11 lbs-ft (14.9nm)

Bleeders are 12.5 lbs-ft per AP Racing.
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Thinking about getting those front and rear when it's time for brakes or i feel the need to upgrade, how is the noise on the street?
The S100 makes noise also, but they are livable. The C300s are NOT livable on the street. C300 = frieght train brakes, S100 = a lot less, but still low speed squeal. The S100s are still an agressive street/light duty track pad. Jeff likely has other options for a completely silent street pad, he offered for me to try something else but I don't mind the noise from the S100s.
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The 300s are LOUD. I have the 100s for the front on the way, it is pretty bad on the street. That said, the brake kit fits and feels amazing. With the 100 in the front I have little doubt it will be excellent for aggressive daily use with quick pad swaps for track days.
This is accurate
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The S100 makes noise also, but they are livable. The C300s are NOT livable on the street. C300 = frieght train brakes, S100 = a lot less, but still low speed squeal. The S100s are still an agressive street/light duty track pad. Jeff likely has other options for a completely silent street pad, he offered for me to try something else but I don't mind the noise from the S100s.
Jeff gave me a great deal on the Hawk HPS to hold me over till the S100 come in stock. I'm guessing they will be dead silent since I know a few people that run these on other cars and they don't make noise. Although I'm not planning on using the grease
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So I rebled brakes last night and while not thinking I torqued the bleeder bolts to 20.8ftlbs instead of 12.5. Oops, oh well nothing broke I bet they won't leak

I was torqueing some other bolts and just forgot to change the damn torque wrench setting.
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BTW, the OEM wheels will clear with 10mm spacers.. it's fairly close, maybe 2mm clearance but it works for my needs (flat tire is the only time I'll be using the OEM wheels).
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@JRitt - I'm not sure if this has been covered here, but what is your opinion on using calipers with no dust boots on the street? Obviously the temperature and use extremes seen would be much less, but on the flip side there is likely going to be much longer periods of time between inspections/bleeds/etc. than on a track only car.

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