Adjustable rear upper control arms???

[Supermassive]

Ok so I have seen and heard rumblings of a few companies that might make some adjustable rear upper control arms, but cant find any definite proof that some will be available. I am curious because I would like to be able to run my rear wheels with as close to zero camber as possible at my current ride height. Currently I am running about 2-3 degrees camber and clear the wheel wells perfectly, but if I could shorten the top arm about 1/2 an inch I should be able to run the wheels with zero camber and due to the very minimal stretch I have on my tires clear perfectly fine.

So if there are any companies out there with a quality adjustable upper control arm for the rear I would be very interested in your product.

For reference I am running Gramlight 57Xtremes (18x9.5) with Nitto Invo (255/35/18) rubber. I have Agency Power adjustable lower control arms, and KW V3 Coilovers. Here's a pic of my current ride height.

Sorry for the crappy pic.


I have about a finger's width (3/4") gap front and rear if you look straight on, and it easily clears the fender due to the stretch.

Here you can see that I have plenty of room in between the coilover and the inside of the wheel well to move the hub in about 1/2" to achieve the results I'm looking for.

[RandyP]

Whiteline has offset bushings for the upper arms that should work.

[jamal]

MSI has upper arms. Whiteline was working on some awhile ago for the Impreza but they had trouble with getting them manufactured and as far as I know it's not going to happen.

[civicdrivr]

Dont the Whiteline bushings have a limited amount of adjustability? Something along the lines of +/- .75*?

[gmookher]

I wonder how the bushing plus the lca does as far as what we are both after...

[Supermassive]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Dont the Whiteline bushings have a limited amount of adjustability? Something along the lines of +/- .75*?

That might give me the enough but probably not.

[Supermassive]

Originally Posted by jamal

MSI has upper arms. Whiteline was working on some awhile ago for the Impreza but they had trouble with getting them manufactured and as far as I know it's not going to happen.

Could you provide a link or a contact number for MSI, couldnt find a website.

[Dezoris]

I have the rear uca whiteline eccentric bushings. I was able to get 1.25 out of them. But every car is slightly different.

[Supermassive]

The eccentrics are okay I guess...more of a crutch than a real solution for me though. I prefer the ability to adjust the length of the arm via threaded mounts and lock nuts, just more precise, and has less chance of shifting over time.

[jamal]

Originally Posted by Supermassive

Could you provide a link or a contact number for MSI, couldnt find a website.

They're in Canada, website is mooresport.com. You might be better of talking to Turn in Concepts as they are one of the main importers of MSI stuff. Here's a picture I got in an e-mail:



I'm not sure if they're officially for sale yet though.

[Supermassive]

Originally Posted by jamal

They're in Canada, website is mooresport.com. You might be better of talking to Turn in Concepts as they are one of the main importers of MSI stuff. Here's a picture I got in an e-mail:



I'm not sure if they're officially for sale yet though.

Oh my those are pretty, curious about how much adjustment they have now, I'll look them up!

[fatoni]

why do you want 0* static camber in the rear?

[Supermassive]

Because I drive the car daily, and don't like not using the full width of my tread. Plus with the way the rear suspension is set up, the car automatically adds a bit of camber with the weight transfer. The real reason is for allowing me to run 0 degrees if i want without rubbing the tire on the fender while driving around town, while still enabling me to set it up for the track with additional camber. As far as how my suspension is currently set up, I feel like I can get more grip in turns from the rear if I dial out some of the camber. The car tracks almost perfectly flat now, with the Whiteline rear sway bar in the mail I feel like that will round out the rear suspension as far as getting it to react properly (not to mention I have Whiteline subframe bushings coming too).

It's all about personal preference honestly, some people like to go sideways through turns others like to grip em. I happen to like the grip a lot, but on the rare occasion like to hang the ass out and power slide through a turn. I don't call what i do drifting since it's more of a power oversteer to keep momentum going through a turn kind of thing. Since that's what i am aiming for 0-1 degrees of camber is ideal, especially with my current suspension set up.

[Captain Snooze]

Noob question: if you have adjustable lower control arms for camber why do you need/want camber adjustment in the upper arms as well?