Carbing air intake kit

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by empower-auto

So .. how about aluminium? lol

Why would you want aluminum over the silicone ones?

besides the look of course

[RD1428]

sell you my greddy intake for 300, only put like 200 miles on it, the thing is still like brand new pm me if interested

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Why would you want aluminum over the silicone ones?

besides the look of course

Nobody has made a good intake for this car yet .. so it's up in the air what works and what doesn't

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by empower-auto

Nobody has made a good intake for this car yet .. so it's up in the air what works and what doesn't

I see, i'm going to try the drop in and silicone tube route, possibly with that Max Racing duct if i can get a good price on it.

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I see, i'm going to try the drop in and silicone tube route, possibly with that Max Racing duct if i can get a good price on it.

I'm going to give the Agency Power one a go with a couple small modifications. They at least went with something that makes sense on paper.

It may not post big gains but it'll sound awesome and be the most responsive.

[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by empower-auto

I'm going to give the Agency Power one a go with a couple small modifications. They at least went with something that makes sense on paper.

It may not post big gains but it'll sound awesome and be the most responsive.

Dont support a company like Agency Power/Vivid who lie about their numbers just to make sales.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by TwinRz

Dont support a company like Agency Power/Vivid who lie about their numbers just to make sales.

I just don't like the design, my faith is in Perrin at this point. I've got their filter on the way to compare to my Cosworth one and a couple silicone intake hoses to try out.

[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I just don't like the design, my faith is in Perrin at this point. I've got their filter on the way to compare to my Cosworth one and a couple silicone intake hoses to try out.

If someone wants to get this I have no problem with it.. But its pretty expensive for just something to make your engine look nice. You can get HKS's suction parts which are 400~ dollars, maybe even for less also. I wasnt saying to support this company but to not support Vivid and Agency Power. They have had 10 + years of horrible customer service and lie about their numbers just to make some sales. They have a long history of shady practices and it is obvious they are just here to make a quick buck. They are banned from every major Subaru forum as a vendor for a reason. NASIOC has a 60 page thread of bad reviews on Vivid/AP. Here is the thread.. The first couple pages were good but I skipped to the other half and you see that its all negative reviews....

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...racing&page=45
It is a thread from back from 2001-2006 but if you do a quick google search you will see that the same problems still occur to this day. You will see on forums members posting the SAME exact thing happening to them in 2011 and 2012 events. One example of their shady practices that I read on that forum was this... A member ordered a body kit from them. Vivid charged them 300 dollars more then what they should have. They claimed that company charges 300 dollars PER SIDE SKIRT. So the customer calls the company who makes it to confirm it and he found out that he was right all along and they dont do what Vivid said. On top of that they also charged him for the body kit even though they didnt have it in stock. Ussually when a company does that they dont charge until they receive it. So it took almost 2-3 months for him to receive the kit then also gets charged the extra 300 bucks. A conversation with someone at Vivid asking for a manager turned into the manager saying fuck you to the customer after he threatened to file a report to his credit card company. Of course it doesnt happen to everyone... I am sure if you order an Agency Power product they will send it to you right away.. But if its another companies you get from them expect to get it delayed.. No other company charges you first if they dont have it... They atleast let you know that they dont have it in stock.. not lie to you saying they have it then you get it 2-3 months later.. What a great company huh?



They also lie about their parts too. The vendor who posts on here claims all there exhausts are made in the USA. Yet he he doesnt realize on their site it says they have them all sent over to China to be made. They charge as much as Perrin for their cat backs when they should be charging what Megan charges for theirs. A lot of people called Vivid/AP out for multiple things and when they do the poster mysteriously disappear and someone new takes their place. Avoiding all questions/call outs by members of this community when they are caught in a lie. They gave this forum what they wanted to see... I/H/E parts hitting the 200 WHP mark but when members Dyno'd their parts they didnt even come close to what they provided us. Claiming power gained through out the whole power band yet when customers posted their dynos only 5-6 WHP in the higher RPM's with almsot no gain anywhere else like their dyno.

Dynos have been done on their cat backs and it showed that Vivid/AP are full of shit. Just compare their dynos to people who have bought their catback and the magazines Dynos. They charge as much as Perrin who has one of the best cat backs on the market yet they had the worse performing cat back on the whole list of 11 companies that magazine did dynos for. Companies shouldnt be charging top dollar for an exhaust that doesnt perform at that rate. Their exhausts should cost about as much as Megans cat backs not a top quality company like Perrin.

Customers have already said that the Vivid/AP cat back for this car have bad fitment. Which has been said about a lot of their exhausts for other cars they develop for. It is no surprise that their cat back doesnt fit good and doesnt perform as well as other companies who charge as much as they do. How can they expect to charge 800-900 dollars which is almost more then most companies for an exhaust that is probably the worse performing cat back of all the ones out for this car already. For that much I would expect a QUALITY product that has little imperfections that would fit correctly. Their are a few companies in the US who make their exhausts domestically and charge as much as them but they have the proper R&D done, they also do what they claim or at least close to it. Agency Powers Catback doesnt even get half of what they showed us on their dynos.. Then they claim they test all their products before shipping it out yet customers get parts that dont properly fit their car.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by TwinRz

If someone wants to get this I have no problem with it.. But its pretty expensive for just something to make your engine look nice. You can get HKS's suction parts which are 400~ dollars, maybe even for less also. I wasnt saying to support this company but to not support Vivid and Agency Power. They have had 10 + years of horrible customer service and lie about their numbers just to make some sales. They have a long history of shady practices and it is obvious they are just here to make a quick buck. They are banned from every major Subaru forum as a vendor for a reason. NASIOC has a 60 page thread of bad reviews on Vivid/AP. Here is the thread.. The first couple pages were good but I skipped to the other half and you see that its all negative reviews....
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...racing&page=45

They also lie about their parts too. The vendor who posts on here claims all there exhausts are made in the USA. Yet he he doesnt realize on their site it says they have them all sent over to China to be made. They charge as much as Perrin for their cat backs when they should be charging what Megan charges for theirs.

Dynos have been done on their cat backs and it showed that Vivid/AP are full of shit. Just compare their dynos to people who have bought their catback and the magazines Dynos. They charge as much as Perrin who has one of the best cat backs on the market yet they had the worse performing cat back on the whole list of 11 companies that magazine did dynos for. Companies shouldnt be charging top dollar for an exhaust that doesnt perform at that rate. Their exhausts shouldbe charging similar to Megans pricing for their cat backs not a top quality company like Perrin.

Customers have already said that the Vivid/AP cat back for this car have bad fitment. Which has been said about a lot of their exhausts for other cars they develop for. It is no surprise that their cat back doesnt fit good and doesnt perform as well as other companies who charge as much as they do. How can they expect to charge 800-900 dollars which is almost more then most companies for an exhaust that is probably the worse performing cat back of all the ones out for this car already. Their are a few companies in the US who make their exhausts domestically and charge as much as them but they have the proper R&D done, they also do what they claim or at least close to it. Agency Powers Catback doesnt even get half of what they showed us on their dynos.. Then they claim they test all their products before shipping it out yet customers get parts that dont properly fit their car.

I knew what you were saying and i don't support them either not only for their business practices but i just don't care for any of their products.

[TwinRz]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I knew what you were saying and i don't support them either not only for their business practices but i just don't care for any of their products.

I am pretty sure anyone who knows as much as we do about them wouldnt care for their products at all. They claimed they have changed yet they havent changed anything except changing their dynos/numbers