What purpose or role will the FR-S / BRZ serve you?

[Spiritama]

DD
Show car possibly but who knows

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

For a DE in anything besides advanced and instructor run groups there will be strict passing rules. The car being passed will give a point by, the passing car can NOT pass until that is received.

DE's are safe generally from car to car contact. I've seen it a couple of times resulting from people not giving others space and the leading car screwing up, spinning, etc, but that's over a 12 year period.. I've seen far more single car incidents.

DE's are generally very safe, but if you are worried and it's offered for the event you want to run, buy HPDE insurance. If the car's wrecked, you get up to the written value of the policy to repair/replace with zero impact on your personal vehicle insurance.

For a novice you'll have an instructor in the car anyways to help you out with learning how to drive on track, it's VERY rare to see newer guys wreck (if so it's often vehicle prep, crap brake fluid, oem pads, etc), it's the guys with lots of experience that are pushing 10/10ths all the time that usually do...

Totally agreed. Just because you see multiple cars on the track at once and passing does not mean it's "wheel to wheel" racing. In fact it's not racing at all, as there is no official timing. Because of this last point sometimes your regular insurance policy covers you. I've called up my insurance company (Travelers) and explained to them what I was doing. I stressed the point that this was not racing and there was no timing and no winners/losers. They said I was covered under my regular insurance policy. And that's fine by me, as I'm more likely to be involved in an accident out on public roads. As a matter of fact last weekend when I was driving home after a track event I was almost run off the interstate by some dumb women that started moving into my lane without a turn signal (when I was next to her). I saw it coming though, so my horn put her back in line.

On the other hand AutoXing is not covered by insurance policies as you are "racing". Autoxing might not involve the high speeds of conventional tracks but the movements you require of your car are definitely more violent than what you would encounter at your typical road course.

[oneday]

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

Thats why I sold my S2000 CR and wanted to get something cheap for track. Spend a lot of time thinking about what I should get (Miata, E36 M3, etc....)

That's a tough call between the E36 and the Miata...The Miata is a great car to learn how to drive in. It is fast enough that you can get yourself in trouble, but slow enough for you to fix a mistake pretty easily. The Miata is also super cheap to repair and maintain. If you have a decent amount of track experience then the E36 is a nice step up from the Miata. More powerful, similar handling prowess, but more expensive in every way.

It might also come down to whether you like open-air tracking or prefer the added protection of a coupe.

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I've called up my insurance company (Travelers) and explained to them what I was doing. I stressed the point that this was not racing and there was no timing and no winners/losers. They said I was covered under my regular insurance policy.

Get. It. In. Writing. Seriously...have a specific rider added to your policy outlining that the coverage extends to track use. Any incident that occurs on a track will get major scrutiny from adjusters and result in having a he-said, she-said argument about compensation.

[BigFoot]

Mostly DD that I plan to take to the track from time to time.

[Allch Chcar]

Guys. Please move this on-track discussion here:

Track/Racing Discussion

Many thanks.

[SUB-FT86]

I dont think anybody here is rich enough to afford a garage queen. This isn't a Ferrari level car....Lol

[no_name]

This poll adds up to 115%.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by no_name

This poll adds up to 115%.

Cause OP allowed more than one response.

[switchlanez]

^That. For those who selected "Other" to represent weekend pleasure car, I consider that borderline garage queen. I guess some options are a gray area. Interesting how many people on this forum are making this their dual purpose car.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I dont think anybody here is rich enough to afford a garage queen. This isn't a Ferrari level car....Lol

My Integra is currently a garage queen, haven't had time to drive the damn thing lately and last time I did someone hit the damn car

[SUB-FT86]

Dave, I undertand where your coming from. But I can't see a brand new car that cost 20k+ being a garage queen unless you live in colder climate area or you bought the ft86 used or in cash. But I know some of you guys have multiple vehicles. I would hate to pay monthly payments for something I barely use but if I can buy it in cash it would'nt matter to me.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Dave, I undertand where your coming from. But I can't see a brand new car that cost 20k+ being a garage queen unless you live in colder climate area or you bought the ft86 used or in cash. But I know some of you guys have multiple vehicles. I would hate to pay monthly payments for something I barely use but if I can buy it in cash it would'nt matter to me.

Oh, the FT isn't one of 320 in the US, it will be daily driven for me, parked at the mall, movies, etc.. if it gets stolen there's another one 15 miles away at the dealer..

No car should be a garage queen in my opinion, I just kinda have one since I haven't had a chance to drive it.. and it's not really a garage queen - it's been driven for about 23,000 miles in the last 1.5 years...

[82mm 4g63]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Oh, the FT isn't one of 320 in the US, it will be daily driven for me, parked at the mall, movies, etc.. if it gets stolen there's another one 15 miles away at the dealer..

No car should be a garage queen in my opinion, I just kinda have one since I haven't had a chance to drive it.. and it's not really a garage queen - it's been driven for about 23,000 miles in the last 1.5 years...

Yeah, 23,000 miles in 1.5 years is the polar opposite of a garage queen.

I have an uncle with an 87 GN with ~600miles on it. An old neighbor back in NJ with a Z32TT with under 500miles on it. And a buddy from high school who went right into the Marines and bought a 2000 Cobra R that's been sitting undercover in his father's plexiglass warehouse since he drove it home from the dealership 12 years ago.

GN:




From what my military friend told me, he knows of a lot of guys who took their enlistment bonuses, bought a new car, and garage it until they're finished their X year's. Results in some pretty sweet older cars with no miles on em.

[Allch Chcar]

5 digits heh. I had a truck that almost hit 00000 after many years of driving so I tried to swap it for a 6 digit.

I can believe that about new military guys buying new cars with their enlistment bonus, having been on base and seen some of the cars. Kind of strange to see the new guys' cars compared to what the career guys are driving.

Anyone, I wasn't completely kidding about a MRV. Although it would be my DD and also serve as my errand runner since I only intend to own one car at a time.