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Old 08-16-2011, 01:09 AM   #15
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super stoked... about the news hopeflly this is accurate... i can only hope that trd has some decent parts for this thing.... trd turbo kit or even cams and itb now im just dreaming
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:23 AM   #16
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I think this has been posted already, but it's not like there's anything else to talk about so let's go with it. $22k base price is a bit more than I was expecting... I was hoping for around 20 base, 23k nicely equipped. I guess if it has lots of standard features 22k would be fine.
man you are a tight fisted bastard. I'll be over the moon if this thing comes in at $22k
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:25 AM   #17
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If that price tag turns out to be accurate, I'll be ok with it.

I've yet to see a Genesis Coupe around my area. Bunch of Z's and Lancers around though.
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It's all subies where I'm at. And $22 sounds awesome. High enough to keep parents from buying for their 16yo kids, but low enough the car enthusiast can afford it (since we're all broke anyway lol)
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ok so i was like, damn that's awfully specific with the length and wheelbase... maybe these dudes got inside info? then i checked, and its the same length and wheelbase as the FR-S concept...

conclusion? yet more bs speculation that you should take with a chunk of salt...
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Old 08-16-2011, 02:41 AM   #20
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$22k sounds about right. I know it isn't 100% confirmed until next spring but it sounds inline with what I was expecting.

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man you are a tight fisted bastard. I'll be over the moon if this thing comes in at $22k
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Old 08-16-2011, 05:37 AM   #21
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The new GC is going to as good if not better than the Scion frs. You can take that to bank!:happy0180: just my one cent.
How so? Please explain?


If the sticker price is 22K, I'm definitely ok with that! With enough jawing and not adding any options, I'm going to assume, tax/license/doc fees will be around $22,7xx OTD.

Based on Scion's build process, majority of the additional options are pointless anyways since I'm going aftermarket.
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I see that you guys dont know about the 2013 GC huh? Lets just wait and see then. The GC will have 270hp/270tq with a curb weight of 3290 lbs base. If the FT is 2700 lbs for example it will need 210hp/195-200tq to keep up. And I also laugh at you guys who say the GC is only about power and nothing else. If you hate its weight then fine but I have driven cars much heavier than mines and I love them way more than my car. Low weight doesn't always equal fun and Honda taught me that.
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I see that you guys dont know about the 2013 GC huh? Lets just wait and see then. The GC will have 270hp/270tq with a curb weight of 3290 lbs base. If the FT is 2700 lbs for example it will need 210hp/195-200tq to keep up. And I also laugh at you guys who say the GC is only about power and nothing else. If you hate its weight then fine but I have driven cars much heavier than mines and I love them way more than my car. Low weight doesn't always equal fun and Honda taught me that.
But your Honda was FWD!?! You can't really compare the GC and FT to be honest.
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You're missing the point. Low weight isn't the definition of fun all the time. Me, I like a balance of everything.
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GC is too big. It competes with the Mustang, not the FRS. I really think it's apples to oranges. And 270/270 is still less than the V6 Mustang, not that I would buy either of them. People who want a big heavy muscle car are going to go all out and get the V8. Why put a tiny engine in a huge car, it doesn't make sense to me.

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But your Honda was FWD!?! You can't really compare the GC and FT to be honest.
Why, because weight is the be all end all characteristic that determines car comparisons? I guess they should've never compared RX-7s to Supras with thier 600# difference. Or Supras to 3000GT VR4s with 450#s separating them.

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The GC will have 270hp/270tq with a curb weight of 3290 lbs base. If the FT is 2700 lbs for example it will need 210hp/195-200tq to keep up.
I reeeeeally wish you were right, but nothing Hyundai has said supports your theory. "Modest gains for the 2.0T" doesn't mean 60hp, when they consider a 25hp jump with the v6 to be a large gain. The 2.0T is going to pickup maybe a couple HP, but I think it will lose some weight.

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GC is too big. It competes with the Mustang, not the FRS. I really think it's apples to oranges. And 270/270 is still less than the V6 Mustang, not that I would buy either of them. People who want a big heavy muscle car are going to go all out and get the V8. Why put a tiny engine in a huge car, it doesn't make sense to me.

Have you seen one magazine comparison between those two? I haven't. The 2.0T isn't target'ed at the v6 Mustang. If you're so concerned with comparing apples to apples, then compare the v6 to the v6. 333hp v6 GC > 305hp v6 Mustang.

The 2.0t is the tuner car, what about that is so hard to comprehend? Look at the aftermarket support for both GCs. The GC v6 is for people like my uncle who want to buy a car that has a little pep from the factory with little to no interest in aftermarket support. Buying a turbocharged car is like buying a computer processor with an unlocked modifier. You spend a little more than the car is probably worth just for the ability to turn the dial.

Also, why don't we wait until final production specs before we talk about how huge or heavy the GC is compared to the FR-S?
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