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Old 11-06-2012, 11:50 AM   #15
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I'm hoping this becomes what the MR2/Supra is today. I want to keep this for a long time.
But the FR-S production number is going to be way higher than the MK2 MR-2 and MK4 Supra.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:54 AM   #16
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I was referring to the 1st generation of the Eclipse. The changes there were, in my humble opinion, pretty significant. I think the 2nd generation mid-cycle changes ('95-'96 to '97-'99) were pretty significant as well. I don't think I'm articulating it well, but I feel that the different front and rear really altered the overall look and flow of the car.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:56 AM   #17
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I feel like the mid cycle refresh for the FR-S will just get blacked-chrome headlight housings maybe a more red taillight cover and a new standard head unit.

I hope that this is the only generation of this car.
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I feel like the mid cycle refresh for the FR-S will just get blacked-chrome headlight housings maybe a more red taillight cover and a new standard head unit.

I hope that this is the only generation of this car.
Why?
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:08 PM   #19
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Why?
I can kind of understand why he said that... It makes him feel more special and also so he doesn't regret buying the early model of course. Lol
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More power along with better mileage, more standard equipment (more premium materials, subwoofer, HIDs, etc) and a JDM HVAC controls would be very nice.
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I can kind of understand why he said that... It makes him feel more special and also so he doesn't regret buying the early model of course. Lol
I see, but new isn't always better.

I talked with a number of MR-2 owners and a lot of them have said MK2 > MK3.

Also on Supraforums, if the FT-HS is a preview of a MK5 Supra a lot of members also said MK4 > MK5.

I would want Toyota to continue with more sports cars in the future. Keep on improving them with every generation.
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Why?
Sorry I said it wrong--but what I really meant to say is that I hope the car doesn't undergo a dramatic redesign and keeps a consistent shape; For example cars like the S2000, NSX, the RX-8 kept their shape throughout their lives.
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More power along with better mileage, more standard equipment (more premium materials, subwoofer, HIDs, etc) and a JDM HVAC controls would be very nice.
Lol, but that's the selling point for Subaru's BRZ Limited in North America.
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Sorry I said it wrong--but what I really meant to say is that I hope the car doesn't undergo a dramatic redesign and keeps a consistent shape; For example cars like the S2000, NSX, the RX-8 kept their shape throughout their lives.
their short, short lives...

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Lol, but that's the selling point for Subaru's BRZ Limited in North America.
heh, good point
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i kind of had the thought of the civic si in mind. it's been all over the map. hatch back, coupe, etc. even the 8th gen to 9th gen was a big enough change. (step in the wrong direction imo)
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But what the OP said is correct. Toyota should make a few minor tweaks here and there, but keep the design the same. Perhaps they could start by fixing the god-awful ricer -- er, I mean Euro-style -- taillamps.
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Big Mid-cycle refreshes:
3rd Gen Mustangs. '79-'93?
C3 and C4 Corvettes.
WRX changed front end a few times.
Acura TL reduced "the beak" but still looks ugly
Aztek did a facelift after the first year.
Civic is supposed to get an early mid cycle refreshening.
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I hope the refresh gets the damn premium Toyota 86 headlights!!! I hate the FRS headlights with a passion. All this car needs is those headlights and 20hp/45-50tq added. It would be the only car for me if that happens.
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