Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ

[subatoy]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Soooo how long till this sema crap is over so we can see some power numbers?

haha I agree, first it was all the buzz "wait till SEMA" now it's "wait til SEMA is over"

[RYU]

Originally Posted by Swift

What I am confused by is in all the talk from Scion.Subaru was that the engine was lowered to get the CG lower but also the hood lower(to see better etc) yet you can fit an entire Supercharger on TOP the manifold. Very few cars let you do that still. Almost like they had this planned...........

Not planned. Boxer engine is low but crash safety standards require a tall'ish bumper for pedestrians etc... Engineers have A LOT of things to work thru. Then they have to work with the designers to put together an eye pleasing design you'll actually buy.

[Carwhisperer]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Soooo how long till this sema crap is over so we can see some power numbers?

It ended on Friday. I wouldn't expect any solid dyno #'s until the Holidays.

[SalM]

Anything? I wanna buy a damn kit already,but nobody wants to put out numbers!! Pissing everyone off!

[JimmyMac]

It's not pissing me off. I want quality, not something rushed to market. Been there. Done that. Learned my lesson. I'll wait till the dust settles.

[SalM]

Originally Posted by JimmyMac

It's not pissing me off. I want quality, not something rushed to market. Been there. Done that. Learned my lesson. I'll wait till the dust settles.

We've just been teased wayyyy to damnn much lately by all these companies lol. They're giving us blue balls!! :P

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Tansey86

AVO is nice if you dont want more than 400rwhp. I guess people arent used to fast cars.

Cars can easily be ruined with too much power. AVO kit is very attractive because it keeps near factory levels of reliability without so much power that it overwhelms the car.

[Tansey86]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Cars can easily be ruined with too much power. AVO kit is very attractive because it keeps near factory levels of reliability without so much power that it overwhelms the car.

Yeah that's why its gonna be a big seller. A majority of people need a little bump and this kit offers it at a affordable price.

Thats just not for me though

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

It ended on Friday. I wouldn't expect any solid dyno #'s until the Holidays.

Damn, that long? I am really interested in this kit since it is the only PD kit that I've heard anything about. Even if I go with something else I want to see what this setup can bring to the car.

I hope you are wrong.

[subatoy]

Originally Posted by Pete

Damn, that long? I am really interested in this kit since it is the only PD kit that I've heard anything about. Even if I go with something else I want to see what this setup can bring to the car.

I hope you are wrong.

well it's one of the few kits that wasn't mounted on a car for SEMA which shows they are far behind on the game.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by subatoy

well it's one of the few kits that wasn't mounted on a car for SEMA which shows they are far behind on the game.

None of the Vortech car's were tuned so it's not that big of deal, they could have stuck this on any car there that wasn't boosted on the show floor.

[RedRocket]

Originally Posted by Pete

Damn, that long? I am really interested in this kit since it is the only PD kit that I've heard anything about. Even if I go with something else I want to see what this setup can bring to the car.

I hope you are wrong.

Perrin took a run at it already, and got +70 HP to the wheels, with a less then optimal tune according to Jeff@Perrin 245Whp..

And the Fan Boi's are already doing their job saying its WORTH it, and hopeing that vendors will cut them a break for helping them price gouge.

6k for those numbers on a TO ME, seems like robbery. I would expect that kind price from TRD.. Actually I would expect it to come in UNDER 6k for TRD with that kind of power..

Being that its NOT TRD and I'm giving up a factory Warrantee, I would knock off 1200 bucks, which from my past experiences is about what TRD would inflate their price, for the TRD badge.

That puts me about $4800 with tune, everything for this supercharger, and I would say that is got some good value at that price point..

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by SalM

We've just been teased wayyyy to damnn much lately by all these companies lol. They're giving us blue balls!! :P

?

AP
Full Blown
AVO
Treadstone
D3PE
HKS
Perrin (Vortech)

all have numbers

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by RedRocket

Perrin took a run at it already, and got +70 HP to the wheels, with a less then optimal tune according to Jeff@Perrin 245Whp..

And the Fan Boi's are already doing their job saying its WORTH it, and hopeing that vendors will cut them a break for helping them price gouge.

6k for those numbers on a TO ME, seems like robbery. I would expect that kind price from TRD.. Actually I would expect it to come in UNDER 6k for TRD with that kind of power..

Being that its NOT TRD and I'm giving up a factory Warrantee, I would knock off 1200 bucks, which from my past experiences is about what TRD would inflate their price, for the TRD badge.

That puts me about $4800 with tune, everything for this supercharger, and I would say that is got some good value at that price point..

Different kits.

This positive displacement SC will not be nearly as efficient as Vortech's centrifugal SC so you wont get the same peak HP numbers at the same psi. (not saying PD SC is shit as it does have its advantages).

Figure Perrin gets 260 WHP at 5 psi with a proper tune. There will be smaller pulleys which will bring the boost up. So figure 300-320 WHP at 9-10 psi. $6k with the tuning and fueling for this performance upgrade is a bit high I think but it's doable considering the simplicity/reliability of the kit and the reputation of the manufacturer.

Innovate's will get less WHP but will be cheaper. Not too much cheaper if you get intercooling and tuning.