Anybody catch this? Stout Racing SCCA Scion FR-S w/ TRD Supercharger at SEMA

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

I dunno. I wouldn't ever consider a four-door car for a "fun" second car. I'll openly admit that's just my personal preference, though.

In the sedan trim I may agree with you. But the "hot hatch" trend seems to contradict that. The WRX hatch, Mazdaspeed3, Focus ST and the GTI are all fun turbo cars despite having 2 extra doors.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

Almost anyone who is looking at the FRS/BRZ will be looking at the cars I mentioned, including the WRX.

If you are a mature buyer and this will be your only car than the FRS is not really an option for you so turbo would not make someone choose it over the WRX. I will give you that.

If you a mature buyer are looking for a fun second car that could work as a DD and and autox or track car than the WRX and BRZ absolutely are contenders. This buyer either has a family with a second car so the practicality is nice but not the deciding factor. The WRX is plain faster and still handles pretty well so that is why many people go with it. If the BRZ was turbo and similarly priced they would have gone BRZ without question.

If you are a kid you just car about being fast, and fast in a straight line so you can destroy people at stoplights. The WRX is faster stock and easier to make even faster so it is the clear choice. Now add a turbo BRZ and they kid will pick it every time.

So in 2 out of 3 buyers the turbo brz would hurt sales.

So I'm still partially right! /sarcasm

I was never trying to speak in absolutes, nobody is totally wrong here. Moving on...:happy0180:

[MVJ1975]

The Focus ST is a great car from all reports. It's a pity we don't get the three-door Fiesta ST the Euros do. At least the GTI has that option.

Then again, you're talking to someone who wouldn't consider a four-door for an only car either. I get that some people like the practicality, but all I see is extra weight.

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by Synack

Pass. There will be other better S/C kits. Beneficial to some people if you get to keep some sort of warranty.

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

I agree with others who say aftermarket systems will be way better for less money. Only thing that a TRD kit has is potential of factory warranty retention.

If by better kits you mean kits that are a little cheaper and produce more power then you are right. However, this will likely be the best plug and play kit on the market for the FR-S. Everything will be ready right out of the box including the ECU tune. It can be installed and maintained by a factory technician and the warranty will be intact. For many people who do not like or do not have the skill to wrench on their own car this will be a huge plus. The convenience and engineering that goes into producing such a total package is why it will be very expensive.

They do not need to sell many of them in order to make it legal for their race car. They just have to have them available for purchase by the public. I am just guessing here like everyone else but I think that those that think the kit will sell for 3-4K are the same people who thought the FR-S would sell for 21K.

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

For young kid buyers, I can admit that you are right. For more mature buyers like myself, I still say that we recognize the difference in overall purpose for the cars.

I would agree with that, but I would also argue most WRX buyers in NON-winter weather climates are young kids.

When I lived back in Michigan I would see 40+ guys driving around in stock WRX/STi all the time. Out here it's almost all 35 and under.

I'm 26, but I'm the abnormal young car buyer. There were two things I was looking for in a car: fuel econ and AUtoXablility (like my word creation?) and that easily lead me to the FR-S over WRX/STi (which I still want for other reasons, but come on I'm only 26 one car is enough!).

[n2oinferno]

If it just has to be available due to homologation rules, Toyota should just troll the entire community and make a badass kit that puts out 400whp or so, and then sell it for 20 grand.

It'll never happen, and if it did they might sell one or two, but we can dream.

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by Rampage

If by better kits you mean kits that are a little cheaper and produce more power then you are right. However, this will likely be the best plug and play kit on the market for the FR-S. Everything will be ready right out of the box including the ECU tune. It can be installed and maintained by a factory technician and the warranty will be intact. For many people who do not like or do not have the skill wrench on their own car this will be a huge plus. The convenience and engineering that goes into producing such a total package is why it will be very expensive.

I purchased 100K extended warranty... So I'm interested for that reason alone.

[Turbowned]

Welp, I'll probably have a Vortech S/C on by the time this is available. Not to mention I doubt the TRD warranty carries over to the BRZ...

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

I dunno. I wouldn't ever consider a four-door car for a "fun" second car. I'll openly admit that's just my personal preference, though.

Same. I'd love a quick four-door for a daily (Audi S4, M3 sedan, WRX/STi) but as a weekend/second car? Meh... Maybe an older Evo 2/3/4/5 for a track car; I'd do that. This coming from a guy with three 2-door cars in his stable... Yay being single with no kids!

[FR-S_Maybe]

Originally Posted by TOMIMOTO

Didn't it also only produce an extra 20 ponies?

My 06 tC with a TRD S/C, Weapon R Header/S-Pipe, HKS Cat-back and Intake made 230whp.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by Rampage

If by better kits you mean kits that are a little cheaper and produce more power then you are right. However, this will likely be the best plug and play kit on the market for the FR-S. Everything will be ready right out of the box including the ECU tune. It can be installed and maintained by a factory technician and the warranty will be intact. For many people who do not like or do not have the skill to wrench on their own car this will be a huge plus. The convenience and engineering that goes into producing such a total package is why it will be very expensive.

They do not need to sell many of them in order to make it legal for their race car. They just have to have them available for purchase by the public. I am just guessing here like everyone else but I think that those that think the kit will sell for 3-4K are the same people who thought the FR-S would sell for 21K.

I totally disagree. There will be better made, better crafted, more quality, better tuning, and generally better thought out kits than TRD. TRD is just a basic S/C kit. I'm not talking about power solely here, I'm talking about quality and engineering.

[YourFearlessLeader]

It will cost 5k; You wont be able to finance it from the dealer; and will add 50whp.

Stick with the aftermarket.

[ahausheer]

Surprised there haven't been more leaks or rumors regarding the TRD SC, seeing that there is less than 2 months before it must be made available to the public.

It will be interesting to watch as each company (Subaru/Toyota) develops their own performance variants, and interesting see who outdoes the other.

Anyone got any info on this TRD supercharger?

[cf6mech]

Wish there was a FRS/BRZ joining one of the Grand Am series