Anybody catch this? Stout Racing SCCA Scion FR-S w/ TRD Supercharger at SEMA

[Jeff86]

Originally Posted by BK025

Thank you SEMA

Per SCCA guidelines TRD supercharger will actually be produced and made available for the public.

Dang it! Why didn't they open the hood and take a pic of the TRD supercharger?

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by BioRage

S/C for FR-S

WHICH TOTALLY MEANS ZOMG TURBO FOR DA BR-Z!111


OT: Interesting though, would like to know more details on the S/C! Also it's warranty cover if you go the $$ TRD Route, for those who care.

May not, STI does not work like TRD. TRD sells parts not just actual TRD Trim Cars. Plus a supercharged FRS would not cut into any other cars sales for them. A turbo BRZ would affect the WRX sales a lot.

I also don't see them selling a bolt on turbo kit so that means everyone who already bought would be screwed and pissed.

[BK025]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

May not, STI does not work like TRD. TRD sells parts not just actual TRD Trim Cars. Plus a supercharged FRS would not cut into any other cars sales for them. A turbo BRZ would affect the WRX sales a lot.

I also don't see them selling a bolt on turbo kit so that means everyone who already bought would be screwed and pissed.

Good point, also if you go back to 2011 and I believe it was the Geneva auto show where Subaru showed off the drivetrain and made a point to say their AWD system would fit in the car. So I would have to take a step back from what I said up above and by no means am I implying i think the BRZ STi would be AWD. Just an alternative to a turbo and cutting in on WRX sales, which would in turn cut into WRX sales.

Kinda sucks when your car company makes more than one good performance car. At the same time I can't see them letting TRD run the table on factory FI.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

May not, STI does not work like TRD. TRD sells parts not just actual TRD Trim Cars. Plus a supercharged FRS would not cut into any other cars sales for them. A turbo BRZ would affect the WRX sales a lot.

I also don't see them selling a bolt on turbo kit so that means everyone who already bought would be screwed and pissed.

I continue to be confused as to how the sales of a boosted RWD coupe would affect the sales of a AWD boosted sedan.

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I continue to be confused as to how the sales of a boosted RWD coupe would affect the sales of a AWD boosted sedan.

I know quite a few people who considered and cross shopped the WRX and FRS/BRZ and went with the WRX because it had more power.

I cross shopped the WRX also but in the end I went with the FRS for a myriad of reasons.

[Books]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I continue to be confused as to how the sales of a boosted RWD coupe would affect the sales of a AWD boosted sedan.

To be fair, I was in the market for a new WRX but I bought an FR-S instead. I would not even consider the WRX if a turbo FR-S was available. I also live in New England.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I know quite a few people who considered and cross shopped the WRX and FRS/BRZ and went with the WRX because it had more power.

I cross shopped the WRX also but in the end I went with the FRS for a myriad of reasons.

Originally Posted by Books

To be fair, I was in the market for a new WRX but I bought an FR-S instead. I would not even consider the WRX if a turbo FR-S was available. I also live in New England.

I'm going to argue here that given equal power, the cars are still totally different and built for different purposes. If you are buying a WRX solely because it has more power, you're doing it wrong.

[danthemann5]

As interesting as all the price speculation is, I think, in the end, we will just have to wait and see. If they can develop the SC from an existing platform instead of from the ground up it will reduce cost. If they anticipate selling more units, the development and manufacturing cost will be spread over more units and also reduce cost. Hopefully, since this car lends itself to enthusiasts, expected demand will be high. That and competition from other manufacturers of FI systems will hopefully act to keep the final price low for us.

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I'm going to argue here that given equal power, the cars are still totally different and built for different purposes. If you are buying a WRX solely because it has more power, you're doing it wrong.

I wanted a fun sporty car that would work as a daily driver, a autox car and had lots of parts available for me to play with.

I looked at the FRS, MS3, WRX hatch and Gen Coupe. These all fit the bill but I went with the FRS for many reasons.

To say that someone who is considering a WRX hatch and a FRS is doing it wrong is wrong.

[SubieNate]

I cross shopped the FR-S and the WRX. The relative disadvantages of the RWD coupe weren't a huge issue (single, living in Southern California), but I did like that the WRX had more power. I ended up buying the FR-S because I wanted to try the RWD thing and to have a different experience. If the deals I was offered had been a little different, the greater power in the WRX could have easily swayed me in that direction. Doesn't mean it was the only thing I was looking at.

Nathan

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I continue to be confused as to how the sales of a boosted RWD coupe would affect the sales of a AWD boosted sedan.

This is why you don't run Subaru. I've had countless people tell me if the BRZ was Turbo they would have purchased it over their new WRXs. Many people in my age group buy the WRX STi because it is a great tuner car, not because they need the AWD (I don't live in winter weather climate) and they don't need 4 doors.

In the snow belt I don't think it would hurt WRX sales at all, but places like Cali and other warm weather areas WRX sales would drop like a rock if there was a turbo BRZ... which there won't be.

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

This is why you don't run Subaru. I've had countless people tell me if the BRZ was Turbo they would have purchased it over their new WRXs. Many people in my age group buy the WRX STi because it is a great tuner car, not because they need the AWD (I don't live in winter weather climate) and they don't need 4 doors.

In the snow belt I don't think it would hurt WRX sales at all, but places like Cali and other warm weather areas WRX sales would drop like a rock if there was a turbo BRZ... which there won't be.

This guy is "doing it right".

[BK025]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

This is why you don't run Subaru. I've had countless people tell me if the BRZ was Turbo they would have purchased it over their new WRXs. Many people in my age group buy the WRX STi because it is a great tuner car, not because they need the AWD (I don't live in winter weather climate) and they don't need 4 doors.

In the snow belt I don't think it would hurt WRX sales at all, but places like Cali and other warm weather areas WRX sales would drop like a rock if there was a turbo BRZ... which there won't be.

Agreed.

Personally I shopped the WRX vs the FR-S/BRZ as well and choose the FR-S. They may be two totally different cars but for many they are in the same market.

Originally Posted by danthemann5

As interesting as all the price speculation is, I think, in the end, we will just have to wait and see. If they can develop the SC from an existing platform instead of from the ground up it will reduce cost. If they anticipate selling more units, the development and manufacturing cost will be spread over more units and also reduce cost. Hopefully, since this car lends itself to enthusiasts, expected demand will be high. That and competition from other manufacturers of FI systems will hopefully act to keep the final price low for us.

True, for me it's more preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.

[Synack]

Pass. There will be other better S/C kits. Beneficial to some people if you get to keep some sort of warranty.