New Rumor: Subaru Developing Turbo 4 2.0T for BRZ

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If they build it, I will buy it.

[DookDookDGM]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Well the Impreza is doing up to 36mpg with it's 2.0i with CVT, and the Legacy is managing 32mpg with it's 2.5i with CVT. The only vehicle they need to bring up to speed now is the Forester with it's archaic 4spd automatic, at a max of 27mpg and bump the 3.6R's economy up, or drop back down to a 3.0 with CVT or something. I actually kinda hope the new WRX/STi is a 2.0L turbo like the Japanese cars have been all along. With direct injection and turbo they could finally get out of the low 20's for fuel economy.

speaking as a guy who has driven Subaru's entire fleet of newer cars, THIS. Holy crap, the Forester gearbox is awful. Even with a manual gearbox it was still kind of


but I don't care for the CVTs either do like me a manual legacy though

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

I am severely disappointed that the owner of the site would be so...we'll call it uninformed....as to give this rumor a third go around on the site....

REALLY???


WAKE UP!!!


OFFICIAL STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE....


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Wow, you're really gonna discredit Hachi.



More news is starting to emerge so there could be a good possibility of a BRZ Turbo. So to be 100% confident that it'll never happen is pure ignorance. Anything is possible

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/s...for-brz-turbo/

[Turbowned]

As someone who will drive manual til the day they die, I'm actually impressed with on the CVT. It's noisy, I'll give the naysayers that. But, compared to a conventional automatic? What's not to like? Better economy, no shifts to feel, and it makes good use of the power available. I wouldn't want one in my sports car, but I don't think I'd complain too much if I had it in my commuter car.

I can't badmouth the Forester considering I sell it, but I do hope they update that gearbox, and soon. They sell very well just the same, but it's time for an update, definitely

[GNS]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

We've got a thread on that Legacy GT engine in Off-Topic.



WRX has been confirmed to be a 2L turbo engine, but they've been mum on the WRX STI. It's entirely possible it may remain a 2.5L turbo to differentiate between it and the WRX; something that's been really lost with the GR/GV generation STI and GH WRX.

If it's still a 2.5L Turbo, expect more ringlands busting on the STI.

[sho220]

Originally Posted by Dorb

Because I have noticed that most of the post against it are from folks that already have one. (and I want one, but can't find one. I can't imagine how hard it would be to get a hp upgraded version.

A hp upgraded one will sell at a higher price point. That alone will kill some demand. Not to mention the competition gets much tougher the higher the price goes...part of the reason they're selling so well is that they're reasonably affordable. Hell, even at their current prices people are complaining they're priced too high...

If Toyota's smart, they'll keep it N/A, keep selling the crap out of them, and let the aftermarket worry about additional power...

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by GNS

If it's still a 2.5L Turbo, expect more ringlands busting on the STI.

It's not likely going to be the current EJ257, so you're probably dead wrong.

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I hope they make sure to include the chirps and the idle dip while they're at it. Can't forget tradition...

[GNS]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

It's not likely going to be the current EJ257, so you're probably dead wrong.

I would love to be dead wrong on this. I'm only responding to the above statement that they'll 'differentiate' it from the WRX with a 2.5L turbo engine. I want to see a turbo FA20 in the WRX/STI and to watch the EJ257 go the way of the dodo.

[sho220]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I hope they make sure to include the chirps and the idle dip while they're at it. Can't forget tradition...

That's what I hope they're working on. Not a turbo...

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by GNS

I would love to be dead wrong on this. I'm only responding to the above statement that they'll 'differentiate' it from the WRX with a 2.5L turbo engine. I want to see a turbo FA20 in the WRX/STI and to watch the EJ257 go the way of the dodo.

That's VERY likely. Turbo FA20 derivative in the WRX with a Turbo FA25 type engine in the STI would be my bet. There has to be a bigger difference in power generation than JUST turbos as it is in the current gen. Hell, the EJ255 of this generation has all DAVCS that ONLY the STI EJ257 had for YEARS (aside from fluke engine placements like the 2004/5 Forester). Aside from the transmission and brakes, the WRX is the better car of the two IMO.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by sho220

Hell, even at their current prices people are complaining they're priced too high...

The current MSRP is too high(I always thought by $1.5-$2k), the 2013 Accord EX(and lesser trims) is evidence of this. I had previously accepted the dollar to yen excuse as a valid reason, not anymore. Look at all the things you get for $25k and less with any of the 2013 Accord models and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Yes, obviously they aren't in the same class, but we're talking about what you get for every dollar spent. The vehicle type is irrelevant.

edited to add: I must be the only one who remembers when this car was first announced that the target was a sub-$20k price.

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Wow, you're really gonna discredit Hachi.



More news is starting to emerge so there could be a good possibility of a BRZ Turbo. So to be 100% confident that it'll never happen is pure ignorance. Anything is possible

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/s...for-brz-turbo/

apparently you didn't look at the article he linked...

it was as credible as the front page of the onion

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by sho220

A hp upgraded one will sell at a higher price point. That alone will kill some demand. Not to mention the competition gets much tougher the higher the price goes...part of the reason they're selling so well is that they're reasonably affordable. Hell, even at their current prices people are complaining they're priced too high...

If Toyota's smart, they'll keep it N/A, keep selling the crap out of them, and let the aftermarket worry about additional power...

they have hinted that there is sufficient room for a "blower",but as mentioned,
the price positioning of this car is "delicate" and at $25,000 a copy,they sure as hell are NOT giving them away now! i agree, let the aftermarket develop one!