Time to put away the BRZ?

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by ashtray

While the idea is to regain traction, and your method certainly would do that quickest - driving straight off the road with full traction is less desirable than skidding through a turn and keeping it on the road.

Online (Forza) racing, in fwd if you start to understeer on the track, you can usually just lift a bit until you scrub off enough speed to regain traction.

As you leave the racing line (or your lane on the street) during understeer, the amount you have to turn to get back increases anyways - so you'll have to increase the amount you turn the wheel at some point. The point being though that you keep turning in the same direction as before. Where-as in oversteer you turn the wheel in the opposite direction.

I wouldn't bring techniques (like that) you pick-up in Forza/GT5 to the real road. The tire model in Forza/GT5 suffers (? might be deliberate) from inadequate tire break-away characteristics. The grip goes away too progressively, and that gives you the ability to correct the understeer the way you describe, in the game. On a real tarmac that might not work if your front tires are already sliding, weight transfer and less gas might not be enough to regain traction. That said, if you're understeering in the snow - absolutely turn the wheel more. The larger pile of snow that bigger steering angle will help create on the side of your front wheels will help you turn

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

Whoring out, but also on-topic!!!



Say goodbye to your retinas, scumbags! Mwahahahahaha!!!!!

Well, it was meant to be :happy0180:

[chanomatik]

They're painted now.

[Rayme]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

They're painted now.

Steelies are the way to go for winter, I like the look

[dsgerbc]

Get some hub-caps dude, you're not in Canada for this look to be acceptable.

[Chimpo]

I dig the "industrial" look.

[Pete156]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Uhmm no. If you are already exceeding the amount of traction that the front tires have, turning more will just continue the slide until the tires scrub off enough speed to regain traction.

The proper thing to do with understeer is to REDUCE steering angle, get traction, slow down, then increase steering angle to complete the turn.

Shouldn't acceleration be a part of the equation? We are referring to fwd.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Pete156

Shouldn't acceleration be a part of the equation? We are referring to fwd.

If you are understeering already there's no traction to accelerate, and that will just transfer weight to the back if there was.

With my FWD cars I accelerate to stop the snap oversteer Like here: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoRCT0HvYsA"]Dave screwing up like usual drving the ChumpCar Integra at RRR - YouTube[/ame]

[dori.]

yeah i decided to drive my ol' honda for the winter

[Jayde]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

They're painted now.

Ohh, I like! Think you could take a pic at a different angle and farther away?

Originally Posted by dori.

yeah i decided to drive my ol' honda for the winter

If only I had somewhere to store my BRZ.

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by Jayde

If only I had somewhere to store my BRZ.

I'm sure one can rent a garage/storage space for like $50-100/month.

[Jayde]

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

I'm sure one can rent a garage/storage space for like $50-100/month.

Cheapest is $150 but they're full. Next is like $200+

[Max Schnell]

Snow tires, drive slower when its wet out. Enjoy the car through the winter...:happy0180:

[chanomatik]

Originally Posted by Jayde

Ohh, I like! Think you could take a pic at a different angle and farther away?

Wait, why further away?