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Old 10-15-2012, 09:06 PM   #43
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Big ass FMIC for a BRZ
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #44
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if u spent 60k with the price of the car your a retard. you can get a gtr for that and to be honest our cars aint got nothin on godzilla. now thats a car that cant be touched for bang for your buck.
People are free to spend their money however they like. I'm not saying its money that has to be spent, or even should be spent. It's a shame how quickly discussions between adults on this forum can turn into childish trolling. Plenty of guys spend plenty of money on their cars, to each their own.

Also for the record, 2013 gtr msrp is over 90k, and if you really want bang for buck, 400hp+ track ready r32's can be had for under 20k. But that too is apples and oranges.

IMO spending money on a car you enjoy doesn't make you "retarded", beaking off on the internet however... i suppose that too is a matter of opinion.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:26 PM   #45
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93 and e85 aren't comparable as pump gas. e85 is not readily available to everyone. Also having to adjust your fuel system to allow a certain type of fuel(ie. e85) at all to me, doesn't constitute it as regular gas. I love the idea of e85 but 93 or 91 to me is true pump gas. Some day soon though, e85 will be the new 93.
E85 is a wonderful anomaly for turbo gasoline engines that only exists due to American politics. It will never be a widely available fuel or replace 93, and I will bet on it.

Just ask yourself this question, how much total energy does it take to make one gallon of E85 and how much energy does that gallon contain.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:47 PM   #46
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E85 is a wonderful anomaly for turbo gasoline engines that only exists due to American politics. It will never be a widely available fuel or replace 93, and I will bet on it.

Just ask yourself this question, how much total energy does it take to make one gallon of E85 and how much energy does that gallon contain.
I understand its better, I stated that. I just don't consider it pump gas....yet.
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My post was not understood. E85 will not become the norm because it takes more energy to produce than it contains.
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Here's the way I look at it. Premium 93 gas is $3.75 here where I live. E85 is $2.99.

E85 gets about 20% less MPG. $3.75 multiplied by 80% (20% less) gets $3 even. I'd say E85 is about equivalent in pricing to 93 when comparing MPG.

But then E85 provides about a 10% power boost while allowing you to run a higher boost level safely, gives more torque (we need it), and is better than 93 for the engine at the same time.

It's a win win for people looking to get more performance. Plus, I have an E85 station 0.5 miles from my home
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:14 PM   #49
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ill give you that there is the fun in modding. i love my brz but i just cant see anyone taking a brz over a gtr if you were going to spend the same total money......by the way used gtr's an be ad for around 60k
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