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madfast · 07-12-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragawn

sorry to dissappoint u guys but... look at this spy pic of the FT86's interior, you can see the 7K mark on the rev counter...in red

that pic is from the older subaru impreza with its end chopped off mule. not the current one seen on the nurburgring...

bigbcraig · 07-12-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

its been confirmed that Yamaha will have a hand in the head design. (I mean its not a toyota sports car without them)

http://www.automotiveheadlines.com/t...amaha-944.html

here a quick link but look around and you can find mentions of Yamaha in almost every bit of info that mentions the engine

Thanks, guess I'm just keeping my hopes down with so much "information" being flung around...

NESW20 · 07-13-2011, 07:40 PM

i'm glad some of you got my "over 9000" reference. i really think it will be between 7500 and 8000. i've said it probably 10-15 times on here by now, but i hope it has torque characteristics like the k20 in the civic si.

Exage · 07-13-2011, 10:48 PM

I would like to see 7600, anything above that I currently have doubts on for the production engine.

celicajim · 07-13-2011, 11:44 PM

Why are we talking Redline? the Rev limiter is where the fun ends

2000 Celica, 7800rpm Redline.... 8350rpm Rev Limit

SUB-FT86 · 07-13-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20

i'm glad some of you got my "over 9000" reference. i really think it will be between 7500 and 8000. i've said it probably 10-15 times on here by now, but i hope it has torque characteristics like the k20 in the civic si.

What Tq characteristics? To feel torqueless? That's a terrible wish upon any car for that matter.

Levi · 07-14-2011, 07:21 AM

WTF? If it does not rev till 8.000 RPM I am not getting this car. I want a naturally aspirated high revving engine. If redline is at 7.000 RPM, than give me a turbo. Or I may simply get the new Porsche Cayman S (988) if I find the cash.

Sabastian · 07-14-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi

WTF? If it does not rev till 8.000 RPM I am not getting this car. I want a naturally aspirated high revving engine. If redline is at 7.000 RPM, than give me a turbo. Or I may simply get the new Porsche Cayman S (988) if I find the cash.

I really hope you're trolling.

tranzformer · 07-14-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabastian

I really hope you're trolling.

He is. Just read his post history if you want any idea.

NESW20 · 07-14-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

What Tq characteristics? To feel torqueless? That's a terrible wish upon any car for that matter.

was it you that hates the k20z3? haha, i've had this discussion before with someone on here. if you'll look at the torque curve for the k20z3, it's pretty darn flat. i've driven a few of the newer Si's, and i've never had a situation where 140 ft lbs across most of the rev range has been a problem. and yes, i know what torque is. my MR2 makes 250+ ft lbs to the wheels.

k20z3 dyno graph pulled from google

EJ20 · 07-14-2011, 08:06 PM

Here in Qatar, the NA subaru impreza (EJ204) is redlined at 7600rpm. This from models from 2006 till now

So I guess a performance FB20 would at least have a 7600rpm

bofa · 07-14-2011, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RRnold

I'm going to predict an 8K redline but power peaks out at 7,600.

Looks good on paper and sounds good in application. I like it. :happy0180:

bofa · 07-14-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NESW20

was it you that hates the k20z3? haha, i've had this discussion before with someone on here. if you'll look at the torque curve for the k20z3, it's pretty darn flat. i've driven a few of the newer Si's, and i've never had a situation where 140 ft lbs across most of the rev range has been a problem. and yes, i know what torque is. my MR2 makes 250+ ft lbs to the wheels.

k20z3 dyno graph pulled from google

Maybe, but the butt dyno tells me the Si in stock form is gutless. I was hellbent on getting one, got the financing done, found the one I wanted in stock online, went to test drive it and it just felt like a dog. Tried city, highway, on/off ramps and it felt like I was driving a Saturn (engine wise, the fit and finish was obviously much better). I couldn't wait to get out of that car when we got back. I hope the FR doesn't feel so gutless. It may have similar stats when its all said and done but I better be able to feel the car move.

fatoni · 07-15-2011, 12:15 AM

kinda sounds odd but that gutless feeling is almost a characteristic of a flat curve. a flat tq curve will put you back in the seat smoothly unless its a boatload of tq. thats why i drive a speed protege. crap tune makes it feel like a beast dd but the miata feels dirt slow and its my fun car

07-13-2011, 07:40 PM	#17
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	i'm glad some of you got my "over 9000" reference. i really think it will be between 7500 and 8000. i've said it probably 10-15 times on here by now, but i hope it has torque characteristics like the k20 in the civic si. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

07-13-2011, 10:48 PM	#18
Exage GL 86! Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: Maybe FR-S... maybe not Location: NA Posts: 356 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I would like to see 7600, anything above that I currently have doubts on for the production engine.

07-13-2011, 11:44 PM	#19
celicajim Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: ZZT231 Celica Location: Australia Posts: 65 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Why are we talking Redline? the Rev limiter is where the fun ends 2000 Celica, 7800rpm Redline.... 8350rpm Rev Limit

07-14-2011, 07:21 AM	#21
Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	WTF? If it does not rev till 8.000 RPM I am not getting this car. I want a naturally aspirated high revving engine. If redline is at 7.000 RPM, than give me a turbo. Or I may simply get the new Porsche Cayman S (988) if I find the cash.

07-14-2011, 08:06 PM	#25
EJ20 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: NA8C, GDB, and R50 Location: Qatar Posts: 311 Thanks: 18 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Here in Qatar, the NA subaru impreza (EJ204) is redlined at 7600rpm. This from models from 2006 till now So I guess a performance FB20 would at least have a 7600rpm

07-15-2011, 12:15 AM	#28
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s)	kinda sounds odd but that gutless feeling is almost a characteristic of a flat curve. a flat tq curve will put you back in the seat smoothly unless its a boatload of tq. thats why i drive a speed protege. crap tune makes it feel like a beast dd but the miata feels dirt slow and its my fun car

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