AVO turbo kit for BRZ - initial build thread

[AVOTurboworldJapan]

If we do the base map on the worst Gas 91 oct its a good base to start from to make shore the tune is reliable even on a 91 Octane tune if you put 93 octane in the car will run better this is why we do the long road tunes when we release these kit to test all fuel conditions. Don't forget these ECU are all ways adjusting for the best performance on the fuel quality. Most off the time you will see better Fuel = more boost, there is not much difference in the map as we will try to run as much advance as we can and let the knock control do its job.

So please just give us some time to give dyno results and road testing.

Speedhunters will be doing a story on the AVO Japan BRZ this week so there will be more Information on the kit on there web sight.

[Ravenlokk]

I think i love you guys. Can't wait for updates. Now i just need to convince the wife...

[Blue86]

Originally Posted by subatoy

theres no fortune that would make me live there.

porn star :-)

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

We'll roll different maps out as soon as we can. It's mainly a matter of time - the initial basemap, not only are we spending time on the dyno for it, but we'll be spending 2-3 days doing about 2400-3000 miles road tuning it over a variety of conditions. We've found through experience that dyno tunes that look ok don't fair as well once we move from sea level to 6000 feet, or when climbing a pass in desert conditions.

We did that for the turbo kits for the 2.5i Subaru's, and the AVO Outback with 180k on the clock when we installed it is still running very well 2 years and 20,000 miles later.

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

I haven't said that we won't have a 93 map, just that it's not what will come out first.

And on a 5psi build, the difference between 91 and 93 isn't going to be as large as 20+ psi build. This isn't an all-out, max hp base map - this is a daily driver map.

Originally Posted by AVOTurboworldJapan

If we do the base map on the worst Gas 91 oct its a good base to start from to make shore the tune is reliable even on a 91 Octane tune if you put 93 octane in the car will run better this is why we do the long road tunes when we release these kit to test all fuel conditions. Don't forget these ECU are all ways adjusting for the best performance on the fuel quality. Most off the time you will see better Fuel = more boost, there is not much difference in the map as we will try to run as much advance as we can and let the knock control do its job.

So please just give us some time to give dyno results and road testing.

Speedhunters will be doing a story on the AVO Japan BRZ this week so there will be more Information on the kit on there web sight.

Are you guys (talking to forum members, not AVO) reading the thread or just reading the last post and responding? I asked about the 93 map, and they answered the question clearly. They WILL provide 93 maps, they just said the initial map (first day) will be 91. I don't understand whats the fuss about.

Also, regarding the difference between 91 and 93, Ross is ABSOLUTELY correct. First of all, this is a 5 psi kit, not a crazy 25 psi kit pushing the whole limits of performance, so the difference will be relatively small. Second, if you have a 91 map and put 93 gas, there is no hindrance in performance, meaning if they made 250 whp and 230 wtq in 91, you will NOT make less power in 93, if anything you will make a bit more power.

I know we have some knowledgeable people in the forum, but sometimes i read some posts and it just seems we also have some other members who know very little about how this works, and this is NOTHING wrong and nothing to be ashamed off. The problem I have with it is you start seeing a lot of posts about misinformation and it is written as FACTS, and it gets the masses riled up.

I ask everyone (not pointing fingers at anyone specifically, just talking to the whole community) to please inform themselves before starting the forum war on how this or that is detrimental when in reality it is not, and also to follow the thread and read all posts, for accuracy.

[brandonw985]

Originally Posted by Ravenlokk

I think i love you guys. Can't wait for updates. Now i just need to convince the wife...

I've noticed in the pictures, not trying to be a nag, but there isn't a tube to keep the water. I live in southwest Missouri where rain is abundant. I was wonder if you have a turbo intake pipe that diverted toward the top of the engine bay of if I would be required to resource my own water resistant turbo tube? But just like Ravenlokk said either way

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by brandonw985

I've noticed in the pictures, not trying to be a nag, but there isn't a tube to keep the water. I live in southwest Missouri where rain is abundant. I was wonder if you have a turbo intake pipe that diverted toward the top of the engine bay of if I would be required to resource my own water resistant turbo tube? But just like Ravenlokk said either way

Do you mean water intrusion from where the kit air filter is? If this is what you mean, this kit keeps the stock intake box, so there is no need for any special tuber to prevent water intrusion. The car was designed to prevent water going in through the filter, so what else would you need?

On another note, I already convinced my wife if it helps, tell them that getting this kit is less expensive and produces more HP than getting a full exhaust, intake and tune.

[Klar]

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

On another note, I already convinced my wife if it helps, tell them that getting this kit is less expensive and produces more HP than getting a full exhaust, intake and tune.

I haven't even thought of approaching the Wife about this kit yet. It'll be a couple of years before I can so she doesn't rip my head off.

[Batman]

Originally Posted by Klar

I haven't even thought of approaching the Wife about this kit yet. It'll be a couple of years before I can so she doesn't rip my head off.

I figure I'll just send her to the spa and put the kit in, then see if she notices when she gets back.

[Batman]

Also, AVO, the most easily attainable gas for me here is 91, is there any way or capability of turning up the boost a little more in the 91 map, or would it throw me into dangerous areas? I just know on my TT i could run upwards of 22-25 psi on 91, even though I was originally tuned for 18-20. I'm fine if its not possible, but would love a little extra power for race days, maybe 8-9 psi

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

maybe you guys in cali should of not voted for carb or just move out. I would never live in that state.

I see this flawed arguement so much. Please think.

1. It is not as simple as "voting for/against carb". Carb has been established (it could not go away in a year or even a decade; it is here to stay and will only get more stringent) and for all its set-backs to the tuning community really does aim to help the environment we live in which most people who are not car nuts actually want.

2. It is not as simple as moving your whole family away from other family, friends, jobs, school and well...home. Most people have ties here and call california is ... home. You don't just leave so you can have a illegally-modified car or so you can have 93 octane. Come on...

[projek_01]

Originally Posted by Batman

Also, AVO, the most easily attainable gas for me here is 91, is there any way or capability of turning up the boost a little more in the 91 map, or would it throw me into dangerous areas? I just know on my TT i could run upwards of 22-25 psi on 91, even though I was originally tuned for 18-20. I'm fine if its not possible, but would love a little extra power for race days, maybe 8-9 psi

As stated earlier, the limit for boost is 5psi with the OEM map sensor. Therefore you wouldnt be able to turn up the boost anyways with the stage 1 kit. More boost = higher chance of detonation especially with 91 octane. Not worth the risk IMO especially with a high compresson open deck motor.

[Cnidus]

AVO, you've mentioned a few time you recommend fine tuning after install. Does this mean the AVO dealers have access to an unlocked tune?

Or do we basically need to throw out all your hard work on the tune and start from scratch? (That would be a shame)

[Gen]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I see this flawed arguement so much. Please think.

1. It is not as simple as "voting for/against carb". Carb has been established (it could not go away in a year or even a decade; it is here to stay and will only get more stringent) and for all its set-backs to the tuning community really does aim to help the environment we live in which most people who are not car nuts actually want.

I would actually disagree STRONGLY that most people want Carb in California. Perhaps in Sacramento and San Francisco, but not the majority of California. It has little to do with illegally modified cars for most people, but rather that it's a parasite on the economy of California and should be put down.

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

I see this flawed arguement so much. Please think.

1. It is not as simple as "voting for/against carb". Carb has been established (it could not go away in a year or even a decade; it is here to stay and will only get more stringent) and for all its set-backs to the tuning community really does aim to help the environment we live in which most people who are not car nuts actually want.

2. It is not as simple as moving your whole family away from other family, friends, jobs, school and well...home. Most people have ties here and call california is ... home. You don't just leave so you can have a illegally-modified car or so you can have 93 octane. Come on...

As I understand its hard to move out i dont think anyone wants CARB. I detest them very much. They are hurting the country with their stupid strict laws. Instead of manufactures making a cali model and a 49 state model car they just make a cali model for everyone which has many strict emission features.