Dunlop Direzza slippery when cold

[Miniata]

In general the stickier the tire (when hot and dry) the worse it will grip as the temperatures drop below 50°F or so. I've experienced this on Dunlop Star Specs, Yokohama AD08s, Falken Azenis, Hankoook RS3s, etc. I still drive them on occasion down to 40°, but just take great care, realizing the normal grip just isn't there.

[CHOPPER]

Originally Posted by Miniata

In general the stickier the tire (when hot and dry) the worse it will grip as the temperatures drop below 50°F or so. I've experienced this on Dunlop Star Specs, Yokohama AD08s, Falken Azenis, Hankoook RS3s, etc. I still drive them on occasion down to 40°, but just take great care, realizing the normal grip just isn't there.

A good reminder - up my way this time of year in one day it can go from 32 degrees to 70 degrees.

I constantly check the dash outside temp light , and especially if it is cold and raining I drive like I was on snow.I do not thrash the corners but what worries me is braking distance

I plan on driving until Dec 1 when the brine begins to be sprayed on the off ramps , then its my shitbox time ! ( an old Saturn )

[SpeedmasterBRZ]

Just remeber the car is checking air temps not road temps. The air might be 70 but the pavemnt may still be cold from a cool night.

[_F-R-S_]

Hell yea these tires are deff for 80 90 degree weather..

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by seven

Buy winter tires or pay your insurance deductable.

This!

[neurokinetik]

I thought my RS3s weren't making any grip last week, when the temperatures were dipping down into the low 40's, so I put my winter tires on. That was a mistake, I think I had the stability and/or tc light flashing about half of my commute! Needless to say, the RS3s are back on the car until I see snow or below freezing temps in the forecast.

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by neurokinetik

I thought my RS3s weren't making any grip last week, when the temperatures were dipping down into the low 40's, so I put my winter tires on. That was a mistake, I think I had the stability and/or tc light flashing about half of my commute! Needless to say, the RS3s are back on the car until I see snow or below freezing temps in the forecast.

What kind of winters do you have?

[rikdrt1]

the more i read about this topic, them more i just want to keep my 1200+ in my pocket and NOT upgrade my tires/wheels.....

[gmookher]

ahh but out on the road, where temps are north of 45, mmmm, like being on rails

[neurokinetik]

Originally Posted by Foobar

What kind of winters do you have?

Blizzak WS70s. Perhaps they need to "wear in" a little, but right now, dry traction is shockingly bad. Even worse than the stock Michelins, which is hard to believe.

[Foobar]

Originally Posted by neurokinetik

Blizzak WS70s. Perhaps they need to "wear in" a little, but right now, dry traction is shockingly bad. Even worse than the stock Michelins, which is hard to believe.

The WS series isn't great on dry. It's the tube multi-cell compound that gives it that characteristic. Great on ice, sucks on dry.

This is why I've been recommending the LM series to people who don't have to deal with constant snow/ice all winter long. LM still has an aggressive tread pattern to get you going and stopping in snow, not as good on ice, but dry winter performance is uncompromised.

If Blizzak isn't your thing, the Michelin PA3's are comparable to the LM's.

For those folks who get a ton of snow and ice all winter long, you're better off with the WS or similar dedicated ice/snow tire.

[SkAsphalt]

traction off = super fun times right now in Saskatchewan haha

[neurokinetik]

Originally Posted by Foobar

The WS series isn't great on dry. It's the tube multi-cell compound that gives it that characteristic. Great on ice, sucks on dry.

This is why I've been recommending the LM series to people who don't have to deal with constant snow/ice all winter long. LM still has an aggressive tread pattern to get you going and stopping in snow, not as good on ice, but dry winter performance is uncompromised.

If Blizzak isn't your thing, the Michelin PA3's are comparable to the LM's.

For those folks who get a ton of snow and ice all winter long, you're better off with the WS or similar dedicated ice/snow tire.

Here in Buffalo, it's best to be prepared. You never know what's going to happen with the lake-effect snow we get. One minute, clear skies, but one little shift in the wind direction, and you're looking at a whiteout. Seeing as I'm expecting this car to be pretty bad when it snows, and it is my only car, I wanted to have the best possible deep snow tire available.