Scion Driver Ken Gushi and Scion FR-S

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Cheap HP ftw.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by blur

Cheap HP ftw.

You mean "Quick HP ftw". Cuz it's not cheap

[KyShro]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

You mean "Quick HP ftw". Cuz it's not cheap

That red coupe he was driving in Formula D was for sale for $36,000! That thing was a steal because it was valued at $90,000 (all the parts + car)

[KyShro]

Originally Posted by KyShro

That red coupe he was driving in Formula D was for sale for $36,000! That thing was a steal because it was valued at $90,000 (all the parts + car)

Here is the link http://www.tunersgroup.com/yoshioka_ae86.html

[ichitaka05]

^Yup, seen that site. Someone here have already posted on off topic thread iirc.

I was talking bout Nitrous. They quick way to make HP, but it's not cheap way to make HP.

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I was talking bout Nitrous. They quick way to make HP, but it's not cheap way to make HP.

Maybe not in his application, but for street use and drag use, it's the best $/hp mod out there.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by blur

Maybe not in his application, but for street use and drag use, it's the best $/hp mod out there.

50 shot is pretty safe on anything, properly installed. That Corolla was probably like 300+ shot in two or three stages. It was insane.

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Originally Posted by Dimman

50 shot is pretty safe on anything, properly installed. That Corolla was probably like 300+ shot in two or three stages. It was insane.

So how much power was he putting down?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by blur

...I agree, but calling a car that takes 15-20 grand in drivetrain mods just to have the capability to drift "legit" is stepping over the line.

Geez, not again. Didn't you already read the part about the Toyota Zelas(aka Scion tC) being AWD overseas?

Seriously, stop talking about this subject over and over. Coverting an AWD car to RWD is legitimate. And it's a race car, they probably spent a couple thousand on the conversion and then spent $15k on beefing up the suspension and custom suspension/drivetrain parts!

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Geez, not again. Didn't you already read the part about the Toyota Zelas(aka Scion tC) being AWD overseas?

I think youve been misinformed, the chassis itself is from an AWD car, but both Zelas and tC are FWD. It still takes 10-20g to convert to RWD.

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Seriously, stop talking about this subject over and over. Coverting an AWD car to RWD is legitimate. And it's a race car, they probably spent a couple thousand on the conversion and then spent $15k on beefing up the suspension and custom suspension/drivetrain parts!

By legit, I meant that the car was designed with RWD at it's inception. Obviously its not. It's like seeing the vid below and saying that civics are "legit" drift cars.
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If youd like us to stop talking about it, just stop bringing it up

[OldSkoolToys]

I would slide that ass all day....nice civic!

Of course, if I were at Ebisu I'd ride anything on the track available, including a bicycle....Chiba-san it up!

I think your problem is that you're wayy to caught up in some fanciful "legit" world of drifting. Street drifting (And its drifters) were never about what was 'legit', or proper, or correct....exact opposite. The fact is, if the car can drift, its a legit drift car....

So some guy spends a fortune doing a FWD -> RWD conversion...ok, that's fine. He any good though? Got the skills to back up that fat wallet? Did he do it to prove a point, or because that's his style and his dream?
Hell the only reason I rag on Honda's is because they were all FWD (S2K obviously not included). If the old EG and EK hatch civics were RWD, the integgy was RWD, etc., they'd be some of my favorite cars.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by blur

You know what would've been cool? If they were the only ones in FD to drift FWD.

It would be cool to see them do the complete impossible. After they win a round in their fronter, they could have every one follow them on their flying unicorn to the magical land extravaganza club were cups and mugs would never empty of their respective drinks and the women outnumbered the men 10-1.

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

I would slide that ass all day....nice civic!

Of course, if I were at Ebisu I'd ride anything on the track available, including a bicycle....Chiba-san it up!

I think your problem is that you're wayy to caught up in some fanciful "legit" world of drifting. Street drifting (And its drifters) were never about what was 'legit', or proper, or correct....exact opposite. The fact is, if the car can drift, its a legit drift car....

So some guy spends a fortune doing a FWD -> RWD conversion...ok, that's fine. He any good though? Got the skills to back up that fat wallet? Did he do it to prove a point, or because that's his style and his dream?
Hell the only reason I rag on Honda's is because they were all FWD (S2K obviously not included). If the old EG and EK hatch civics were RWD, the integgy was RWD, etc., they'd be some of my favorite cars.

Dont get me wrong, I love the FWD -> RWD/AWD conversions! This is one of my favorites:

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Absolute beast of a car that celica is. And I completely agree with you on the honda part, although those cars are serious competitors to purpose built sports cars, so I suppose honda did something right. I have to say that if a civic came in this trim, stock, it'd be an all around winner.

The thing that bothers me about calling a fwd car a legitimate drift car is definitely that ANYTHING with enough money thrown at it become a good drift car. But stock for stock is what differentiates a legitimate sports car(FT86) from a car trying to be sporty(tC). If you take a look at the original tC drift car, there wasn't anything left of the original car. When I saw it drifting with the other D1 competitors, it seems like its trying its hardest to show that it can keep up with the big dogs, so therefore its a cool car. Its all marketing. Its not like Toyota picked the tC to drift with because its better than their previous RWD cars . . . support fredric aasbos supra!

<--for the sake of entertainment

Its not the word that bothers me, but the implied meaning behind it. It screams "I can drift if I wanted to, I just don't want to" lol..

To me, a legitimate sports car is ready to race(/drift, in this case) from factory, not after massive modifications that the average gearhead would never attempt.

Also, you are aware the first american D1 winner won in a civic?

[MTolump]

Originally Posted by FR_Soldier_77

Good ol Ken Gush, at least they sent a proffesional to do a behind the scenes. Wonder if he thinks the same thing as me, and says, toyota please dont give us a retarded dumbed down version of the car that you demo! As we all know, all concepts look way better than the actual thing. Why this is, I really dont know. I theorize it has something to do with the actual shapping of the frame, and that the more lines and angles you produce the more expensive it gets. Anybody agree with that? On another topic, Speaking of drifting car accessories, I wish Ken would drop that damn cursed 3S-GTE in is TC and just drop a V-8 in it. Poor guy has had the worse luck with mechanical failures. I got to see him in his new TC truck accessories back in '08, he did did one full round and beat who he drifted agaisnt, then the second time his car broke.. I was like, oh man, wtf?? I was so dissapointed because I heard how good he was and because his car wasnt responding right, he couldnt actually achieve a good drift. It was a sad day for the "Gush".

Ha, I hope they don't dumb it down that would just take away all the hype of this for me.