California may switch to winter blend gas early - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

carbonBLUE · 10-07-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

Uh I thought all gas is oxygenated...just means it has 10% ethanol in it, CARB mandate (and federal now I think too?).

It definitely doesn't get cold enough in CA to warrant a more volatile gasoline for cold weather operation, but I pretty much don't know anything about how fuel formulations work. So I might be completely wrong.

But holy shit, I did not notice the gas prices going up. Gonna fill up if I see ~$4.2/gallon since $5 is way crazy.

EDIT: okay read that article, it says they add butane into the fuel for the winter, which I'm guessing has slightly lower energy density or something.

dont sweat it, we pay a lot less for gas than the rest of the world

serialk11r · 10-07-2012, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

dont sweat it, we pay a lot less for gas than the rest of the world

Yea, but who really thinks about that when they see the gas prices going up? All I remember thinking when I pumped my 4.30/gallon gas was "damn, I barely drove this and that was 47 bucks?"

jeebus · 10-07-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

dont sweat it, we pay a lot less for gas than the rest of the world

at least they have better gas than our crapola

Subie · 10-07-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

dont sweat it, we pay a lot less for gas than the rest of the world

We also drive more due to our population/cities being more dispersed. Just because our gas is cheaper doesn't mean it hurts us less.

nix · 10-07-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Subie

We also drive more due to our population/cities being more dispersed. Just because our gas is cheaper doesn't mean it hurts us less.

That's not really true. We pay double what you do ($1.50 p litre) and an 86 costs about $40k as well.

The blending sounds annoying esp if you don't need it in CA. In Aus we do have pretty consistent fuels.

rikdrt1 · 10-07-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

Uh I thought all gas is oxygenated...just means it has 10% ethanol in it, CARB mandate (and federal now I think too?).

It definitely doesn't get cold enough in CA to warrant a more volatile gasoline for cold weather operation, but I pretty much don't know anything about how fuel formulations work. So I might be completely wrong.

But holy shit, I did not notice the gas prices going up. Gonna fill up if I see ~$4.2/gallon since $5 is way crazy.

EDIT: okay read that article, it says they add butane into the fuel for the winter, which I'm guessing has slightly lower energy density or something.

CARB will bancrupt this entire state. EVeryone voted for that prop years ago, now we will pay forever. no more GoldenState... time to move.

Subie · 10-07-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nix

That's not really true. We pay double what you do ($1.50 p litre) and an 86 costs about $40k as well.

The blending sounds annoying esp if you don't need it in CA. In Aus we do have pretty consistent fuels.

I was thinking more of Europe than AU; I suppose it's not true everywhere, but Americans have always driven a lot in comparison to many other places.

WolfsFang · 10-07-2012, 10:36 PM

im enjoying my 93 oct gas that only cost me $4/gallon

serialk11r · 10-07-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rikdrt1

CARB will bancrupt this entire state. EVeryone voted for that prop years ago, now we will pay forever. no more GoldenState... time to move.

I don't know that alcohol fuel is the problem, ethanol is pretty cheap to produce. However everything else they've done has screwed over just about everything that has to do with cars...whose idea was it to start this CARB thing? They need to be shot.

WolfsFang · 10-07-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

I don't know that alcohol fuel is the problem, ethanol is pretty cheap to produce. However everything else they've done has screwed over just about everything that has to do with cars...whose idea was it to start this CARB thing? They need to be shot.

i agree, CARB also hinders all other states because manufacturers just build to CARB spec.

finch1750 · 10-07-2012, 11:23 PM

This was approved by Governor Brown earlier today.

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17775

serialk11r · 10-07-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by finch1750

This was approved by Governor Brown earlier today.

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17775

Guess if gas prices go down to normal before the winter blend kicks in, I should hurry and fill the tank to get as much summer gas in the tank as possible...

Coheed · 10-07-2012, 11:52 PM

To my knowledge you can't get more than a 10% ethanol at the pump without going to "E85".

I live in Utah. We use E10 year round at most pumps.

rice_classic · 10-07-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coheed

To my knowledge you can't get more than a 10% ethanol at the pump without going to "E85".

I live in Utah. We use E10 year round at most pumps.

Ditto here in WA... at most pumps.

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WolfsFang Scrape Master Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Goal: Oldest FRS State Side Location: North NJ Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 238 Thanked 412 Times in 238 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	im enjoying my 93 oct gas that only cost me $4/gallon __________________ You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right?

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finch1750 Undisputed El Presidente Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Zenki 37J ZN6 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 11,594 Thanks: 9,405 Thanked 9,411 Times in 5,270 Posts Mentioned: 374 Post(s)	This was approved by Governor Brown earlier today. http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17775 __________________ "Just like how a strut bar somehow enables you to corner 20MPH faster around a cloverleaf on-ramp, when the reality is, you can do it already but you just don't have to balls to do it." - CSG David

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