what are your thoughts on rota wheels?

[S2KtoFT86]

Gotcha. I agree that a car that you spent 1k on isn't worth spending 3k+ for a set of wheels. The only real Enkei's I've had experience with are RPF1's and they seem to hold up extremely well.

[Ricepuddin]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Gotcha. I agree that a car that you spent 1k on isn't worth spending 3k+ for a set of wheels. The only real Enkei's I've had experience with are RPF1's and they seem to hold up extremely well.

Honestly I have never heard anything bad about Enkei, Just That one case maybe later down the road ill give them another try.

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Most of the folks that buy Rotas and other knock offs are not the people that have the authentic JDM mods done. Most if not all of their mods are from knock off companies.

That's b.s.

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

If that were the case, then you'd take Volks over Rotas every single time. Also, if you seriously tracked your car, you'd take Volks over Rotas every time. The picture posted above is not an isolated incident. It happens to Rotas all the time.

This is even more b.s. I guarantee you will see way, way more Rotas on cars being tracked the you would Volks. Why? Because they are pretty sturdy rims, and you can replace an entire set for about the price of one Volk. Makes sense if you're going go track your car, and don't have a pro racing budget.

And before anyone asks, I have yet to rock a set of Rotas (or Volks, for that matter). My personal aftermarket rim experience is with Work, Enkei, and Konig (these came with a car I purchased).

I can also can tell you that these reports of Rotas "destructing" are blown way put of proportion. Yes, it happens, but that out proportion to the expensive rims? There are a lot of factors in play here.

[VenomRush]

just remember you get what you pay for

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by VenomRush

just remember you get what you pay for

Not disputing that, but club racers across the continent can't be all wrong, either.

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by White Comet

I guarantee you will see way, way more Rotas on cars being tracked the you would Volks. Why? Because they are pretty sturdy rims, and you can replace an entire set for about the price of one Volk. Makes sense if you're going go track your car, and don't have a pro racing budget.

^^This.

Other than the supposed stigma of Rotas being "knock offs" (who gives a shit? There's only like five basic wheel styles anyway), they have a very good reputation for what they are.

Anyone who is all that concerned about bending a rim could either buy an extra set or spring for forged ones. At the end of the day the Rotas work just fine, and are light and inexpensive.

Apparently there were a few bad Slipstream units floating around a few years ago, and this event gave birth to the internet myth that Rotas are junk. Rota replaced the few bad wheels free of charge and fixed the problem in the casting. No other problems reported since, and I don't know of anyone who's ever had a problem with them otherwise.

I've had my Rota Subzeros for about 5 years and they are perfect.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by White Comet

That's b.s.


This is even more b.s. I guarantee you will see way, way more Rotas on cars being tracked the you would Volks. Why? Because they are pretty sturdy rims, and you can replace an entire set for about the price of one Volk. Makes sense if you're going go track your car, and don't have a pro racing budget.

And before anyone asks, I have yet to rock a set of Rotas (or Volks, for that matter). My personal aftermarket rim experience is with Work, Enkei, and Konig (these came with a car I purchased).

I can also can tell you that these reports of Rotas "destructing" are blown way put of proportion. Yes, it happens, but that out proportion to the expensive rims? There are a lot of factors in play here.

How is it BS? The folks that buy Rotas are the same people who buy Seibon thinking they're getting real CF. Why on earth would you spring for JDM brands on certain items then go cheap on your wheels? It's stupid if you do.

Read what I said again about tracking. If you seriously tracked your car then you'd take Volks over Rotas. You're already spending some serious cash on drivetrain, replacing bumpers, etc. so why would you skimp out on wheels? It boggles my mind why people would spend so much cash on their ride, yet cheapen what is actually putting that power on the ground. It just doesn't make sense.

And Jordo, how are Rotas supposed knockoffs? They are knockoffs. Slipstreams are a blatant copy of Spoon SW38s, J-Mags are a copy of Mugen M7's, and D2s are a copy of S1 Meisters. They may have some of their own designs, I just can't tell having not seen the real thing if there is a real thing for some models that they sell. Hell, even on their home page they've got an Evo sitting on fake ass concave TEs. Now try to tell me they're "supposed" knockoffs.

[VenomRush]

there aint no rotas in JGTC

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

How is it BS? The folks that buy Rotas are the same people who buy Seibon thinking they're getting real CF. Why on earth would you spring for JDM brands on certain items then go cheap on your wheels? It's stupid if you do.

How is it stupid? It's the consumer's choice! It's only stupid if you care about making your car a JDM replica or something of that nature. There are no rules in modding. Check out NASIOC. It's a forum where function is considered more important than form (much more so there than other car forums, anyway). Rotas rule the roost over there.

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Read what I said again about tracking. If you seriously tracked your car then you'd take Volks over Rotas. You're already spending some serious cash on drivetrain, replacing bumpers, etc. so why would you skimp out on wheels? It boggles my mind why people would spend so much cash on their ride, yet cheapen what is actually putting that power on the ground. It just doesn't make sense.

First off, Gavin, I totally get you what are trying to say, and it completely makes sense, but ultimately, it's just not the reality of it. People that seriously track their cars (and again, I am not talking about professional racing organizations that have budgets that cost more than our annual salaries) will more often use Rotas than expensive brand rims, especially Volks, for the reasons I already outlined. The Rotas are tough rims, and they cost a lot less. That's what it comes down to.

Originally Posted by VenomRush

there aint no rotas in JGTC

Really. That's a silly argument considering the multi-million dollar budget of Super GT versus the shoestring personal budget of club racers.

[Jordo!]

Regarding my comment about Rotas being knock offs (or, as I like to say, "knock offs"), I just mean that there's only so many wheel styles, so just pick the one you like by the manufacturer you like and move on.

In other words, who cares? It's not as if a given spoke design is some sort of patented secret. It's just a style -- cosmetic. If I can get the style I like for less on a wheel that performs (i.e., light and sturdy), I'm happy.

Or is all about the Volks sticker? I thought everyone on this forum was a car enthusiast (whether soft- or hard-core), so who gives a fuck whether the wheels are JDM or not so long as they get the job done?

[VenomRush]

i read somewhere about how they cast their rims when the design they "borrowed" it from are meant to be forged.. and saw a magnafied pic of the cast material compared to the forged one.. as soon as i find it, i'll post it

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by VenomRush

i read somewhere about how they cast their rims when the design they "borrowed" it from are meant to be forged.. and saw a magnafied pic of the cast material compared to the forged one.. as soon as i find it, i'll post it

Of course they make cast knock-offs of forged rims. That's the whole point of Rotas existence.

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by VenomRush

i read somewhere about how they cast their rims when the design they "borrowed" it from are meant to be forged.. and saw a magnafied pic of the cast material compared to the forged one.. as soon as i find it, i'll post it

Whatever. Unless that results in some sort of serious design flaw, which I highly doubt, all it means is that you get the same style in a cast wheel.

If you want the forged one, and have the cash, buy it.

This is turning into a designer jeans argument...

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86

Gotcha. I agree that a car that you spent 1k on isn't worth spending 3k+ for a set of wheels. The only real Enkei's I've had experience with are RPF1's and they seem to hold up extremely well.

Depends on what car it was that you bought.