Slip'n Slide! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BuBlake · 09-30-2012, 12:39 PM

Hey peeps, I just realized that this car slides in the rain easier than anything I have ever driven! In previous vehicles, such as my 3600lb 350z convertible, I couldn't tell much difference when I turned off traction control in the rain. Heck, I don't even think that vehicle had stability control, but it was pretty much rock stable in the rain with its 225 front and 245 rear michelins.

I disabled all assists yesterday in the rain and realized just how much these 215 tires suck! I shifted into third gear and the car went into a slide at 4k rpm while I was going straight! I had to counter-steer and maneuver the vehicle to keep it in a straight path. I managed to keep it in my lane, but the truck next to me was freaked out and backed off. lol! Stay on your toes guys.

Turbowned · 09-30-2012, 12:40 PM

You say it like it's a bad thing

neutron256 · 09-30-2012, 01:00 PM

This is my one issue with these tires. While on dry surfaces the have a nice progressive, predictable breakaway, on wet surfaces they become unpredictable.

I had the same experience with the LRR tires on my Honda CRZ

mezdup · 09-30-2012, 01:26 PM

that's why you don't turn off traction control while it's raining.

..unless of course you're looking to slip n slide. then by all means, have some fun in a parking lot but never on a highway with other vehicles around you.

jmaryt · 09-30-2012, 01:32 PM

if you look for trouble,you generally find it! keep (t.c) on in bad conditions!

ichitaka05 · 09-30-2012, 01:36 PM

I'll just leave this here

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qggahGNH0"]Toyota GT 86 Traction Control Demonstration [SKIDPAD] - YouTube[/ame]

TOYSTRY · 09-30-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I'll just leave this here

Wow - that's nutz.

jmaryt · 09-30-2012, 01:45 PM

thanks you proved our point!
video says it all! you take the "nannies" off on a highway
at higher speeds in bad conditions,and good luck to that! he! he! he!
make your peace with the man!..just sayin'

BuBlake · 09-30-2012, 05:33 PM

I agree, I was just asking for trouble, but my point was that in comparison to other cars in the rain, the FR-S/BRZ is a poor performer because of the tires. I'll definitely be getting something different when these wear out. I wonder if the stock rims can accomodate 245s?

FR-S_Tacoma · 09-30-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BuBlake

I agree, I was just asking for trouble, but my point was that in comparison to other cars in the rain, the FR-S/BRZ is a poor performer because of the tires. I'll definitely be getting something different when these wear out. I wonder if the stock rims can accomodate 245s?

The rims can yes (I have 245/45/17s in the rear right now. No guarantee they'll fit up front tho...

*edit* wider tires can actually make you "slip-n-slide" more-so than skinny ones... not always but just keep that in mind

NOHOME · 09-30-2012, 05:50 PM

Combined with the fact that a lot of FRS owners have never dirven a RWD car, I think we are going to see some broken cars. Not sure exactly how muchis the tires, but this car can bite you if you are not careful. Winter is going to be interesting.

ichitaka05 · 09-30-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME

Combined with the fact that a lot of FRS owners have never dirven a RWD car, I think we are going to see some broken cars. Not sure exactly how muchis the tires, but this car can bite you if you are not careful. Winter is going to be interesting.

Amen... My guess is first snow storm, we'll see bout dozen wrecked FRS/BRZ

BuBlake · 10-01-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S_Tacoma

The rims can yes (I have 245/45/17s in the rear right now. No guarantee they'll fit up front tho...

*edit* wider tires can actually make you "slip-n-slide" more-so than skinny ones... not always but just keep that in mind

Awesome. I think 245s would make this car handle great and be able to handle all of the power adders besides forced induction. It would be great to even get some 225s in the front.

FT86R · 10-01-2012, 07:26 PM

i took off traction control once .........then i hit a curb

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neutron256 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: '13 GBS Subaru BRZ Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,030 Thanks: 680 Thanked 664 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This is my one issue with these tires. While on dry surfaces the have a nice progressive, predictable breakaway, on wet surfaces they become unpredictable. I had the same experience with the LRR tires on my Honda CRZ __________________ -Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the bold)

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