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BuBlake 09-30-2012 12:39 PM

Slip'n Slide!
 
Hey peeps, I just realized that this car slides in the rain easier than anything I have ever driven! In previous vehicles, such as my 3600lb 350z convertible, I couldn't tell much difference when I turned off traction control in the rain. Heck, I don't even think that vehicle had stability control, but it was pretty much rock stable in the rain with its 225 front and 245 rear michelins.

I disabled all assists yesterday in the rain and realized just how much these 215 tires suck! I shifted into third gear and the car went into a slide at 4k rpm while I was going straight! I had to counter-steer and maneuver the vehicle to keep it in a straight path. I managed to keep it in my lane, but the truck next to me was freaked out and backed off. lol! Stay on your toes guys.

Turbowned 09-30-2012 12:40 PM

You say it like it's a bad thing ;)

neutron256 09-30-2012 01:00 PM

This is my one issue with these tires. While on dry surfaces the have a nice progressive, predictable breakaway, on wet surfaces they become unpredictable.

I had the same experience with the LRR tires on my Honda CRZ

mezdup 09-30-2012 01:26 PM

that's why you don't turn off traction control while it's raining.

..unless of course you're looking to slip n slide. then by all means, have some fun in a parking lot but never on a highway with other vehicles around you.

jmaryt 09-30-2012 01:32 PM

if you look for trouble,you generally find it! keep (t.c) on in bad conditions!

ichitaka05 09-30-2012 01:36 PM

I'll just leave this here

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8qggahGNH0"]Toyota GT 86 Traction Control Demonstration [SKIDPAD] - YouTube[/ame]

TOYSTRY 09-30-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 468389)

Wow - that's nutz.

jmaryt 09-30-2012 01:45 PM

thanks you proved our point!
video says it all! you take the "nannies" off on a highway
at higher speeds in bad conditions,and good luck to that! he! he! he!
make your peace with the man!..just sayin'

BuBlake 09-30-2012 05:33 PM

I agree, I was just asking for trouble, but my point was that in comparison to other cars in the rain, the FR-S/BRZ is a poor performer because of the tires. I'll definitely be getting something different when these wear out. I wonder if the stock rims can accomodate 245s?

FR-S_Tacoma 09-30-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BuBlake (Post 468643)
I agree, I was just asking for trouble, but my point was that in comparison to other cars in the rain, the FR-S/BRZ is a poor performer because of the tires. I'll definitely be getting something different when these wear out. I wonder if the stock rims can accomodate 245s?

The rims can yes (I have 245/45/17s in the rear right now. No guarantee they'll fit up front tho...

*edit* wider tires can actually make you "slip-n-slide" more-so than skinny ones... not always but just keep that in mind

NOHOME 09-30-2012 05:50 PM

Combined with the fact that a lot of FRS owners have never dirven a RWD car, I think we are going to see some broken cars. Not sure exactly how muchis the tires, but this car can bite you if you are not careful. Winter is going to be interesting.

ichitaka05 09-30-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NOHOME (Post 468662)
Combined with the fact that a lot of FRS owners have never dirven a RWD car, I think we are going to see some broken cars. Not sure exactly how muchis the tires, but this car can bite you if you are not careful. Winter is going to be interesting.

Amen... My guess is first snow storm, we'll see bout dozen wrecked FRS/BRZ

BuBlake 10-01-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-S_Tacoma (Post 468648)
The rims can yes (I have 245/45/17s in the rear right now. No guarantee they'll fit up front tho...

*edit* wider tires can actually make you "slip-n-slide" more-so than skinny ones... not always but just keep that in mind

Awesome. I think 245s would make this car handle great and be able to handle all of the power adders besides forced induction. It would be great to even get some 225s in the front.

FT86R 10-01-2012 07:26 PM

i took off traction control once .........then i hit a curb


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