Unofficial - CEL/SL/Idle Issue List for FR-S/BRZ Owners

[pituala]

Just picked up my car. Everything seems ok. When I come to a stop the idle dips a tad, you hear the typical low idle vibes, then it stablizes at 700rpms, Power in the upper rpms seems slightly better. I will post my invoice when I get home, but it shows the following;

SU003-00096 - VALVE AY-OIL CONT
SU003-04522 - UNIT-EGI CONTROL

I see nothing about oil or coolant on the invoice. I was told they would change the oil and coolant, but not sure now if that happened or not.

Gotta say it feels good to be in the FR-S again! I will keep everyone posted on my results after a few days of driving. I will also mention to the Scion Rep about the idle dropping and see what they say.

[pituala]

Originally Posted by KingRohan

I learned something today!

That little thing was a sleeper in a way lol, "G"oes "L"ike "H"ell
Awesome!

Ahh the days when the letters/numbers in a cars name actually meant something :P

[eurospeed]

Originally Posted by eyebone

I'm gonna have to wait a month to get mine back. That's fcked

Please post your details (see first page) so I can add you to the list, thanks.

[AceNiNe]

UPDATE: Got phone call from Toyota Service today and told me my car was ready. Went over right away and picked it up today 09/28.

Glad that flashing the ecu chip worked with my frs. driving really well so far, if any problems i will update. hope u guys get urs handled soon.

AceNiNe FR-S 1500m fixed 9/18 - 9/28

[enigmaaron]

Originally Posted by pituala

Ahh the days when the letters/numbers in a cars name actually meant something :P

Ummm:
Front engine
Rear drive
Sport

[pituala]

Originally Posted by enigmaaron

Ummm:
Front engine
Rear drive
Sport

Sarcasm just doesn't translate well in writing....lol

[pituala]

So anyhow, so far I'm not very happy with the inconsistent idle, it drops, it raises, it settles, it drops again. Not liking that. And I think I hear a ticking

[eurospeed]

FYI, this list was started exactly five weeks ago and since that time, we have 115 owners noting specific CEL/idle issues. I have been seeing an average addition of about 2 owners per day with no sign of slowing (Should this latest ECU update not solve the problem, the rate of occurrence could greatly increase).

Statistically speaking, it is not possible at this time to accurately determine the percentage of affected owners.

However, for entertainment purposes I'll try to approximate based on a couple of assumptions:

Roughly 8000 vehicles have been sold - not all have made it into consumers hands, but we'll round up anyway (some were used in marketing, car mags, safety orgs, other testing, etc.).

Let's say 50% of the owners (4000) take time to read internet forums.
Of those 50%, only about half (2000) will post anything to the ft86club forum.

Therefore, one can't simply take 115 (ft86club owners) and divide it by 8000 for a percentage of 1.4%. That would assume every owner would read internet forums, would find the ft86club forum, and would be willing to post to it. Using a more realistic (IMO) sampling of 2000 owners, we would get a value of 5.7%.

That said, @Art_Mighty's approximation of 5% to 7% affected may not be very far off...

[enigmaaron]

Originally Posted by pituala

Sarcasm just doesn't translate well in writing....lol

Ahh, my bad, lol.

[eyebone]

eyebone, FR-S, 4012 miles, 7069xx, waitin at least a month for the ECU to arrive

[Alienate]

Originally Posted by eyebone

eyebone, FR-S, 4012 miles, 7069xx, waitin at least a month for the ECU to arrive

4000+ miles. Isn't this one of the most mileage guys on the list? looks to me like as time goes on, more and more cars will be hit with it.

I smell a RECALL in the not too distant future.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Alienate

4000+ miles. Isn't this one of the most mileage guys on the list? looks to me like as time goes on, more and more cars will be hit with it.

I smell a RECALL in the not too distant future.

It sure looks that way...this debacle has grown from a handful of guys experiencing this to an epidemic in two months time...

[Tricky1980]

Originally Posted by pituala

So anyhow, so far I'm not very happy with the inconsistent idle, it drops, it raises, it settles, it drops again. Not liking that. And I think I hear a ticking

if i press my gas pedal very slow in nuetral.. i can get to a point about 3/4 of an inch in pedal movement.. before rpms move at all.. i can create a ticking noise...

if i blip gas pedal quickly and lightly .. i can get teh rpms to DROP before they go up...

under WOT from a 5mph roll my car has very low power it feels.. when im moving and rpms are closer to 3kish car pulls great

i have about 120 miles on my cam gear and egi repair... meeting oct 17th with toyota and 3rd party arbitrator.. i just dont like the way the car feels.. even after repair...
hopefully i get what ive requested and that is to walk away from deal. and i woudl cover interest expense on 2 months ive owned the car.. my insurance costs and whatever "usage" fee they wanna throw at me for my 225 miles ive put on the car.

[CMOS]

This is not the end.
This is not the beginning.
This is not the beginning of the end.
It is not even the end of the beginning.

Computers make very quick and very precise mistakes, if this was one of those it would come up for everyone by the time they got home. I assume that Subaru in their infinite wisdom has designed one computer and replicated it a few thousand times rather than making each one unique. Either all of us have a failing timer module or that thing is not kidding about the engine problem. Personally I'd like to know the cause of the error and not the symptoms before making repairs that mask the symptoms and lead to valve shaped hood ornaments.