Syms Racing Intake

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by wootwoot

I keep hearing people talk bad about the accordion section of the intake. Here is my 2 cents:

I recently worked security at an event where I had to watch over 60 of these really nice cars made by an Italian automaker. Ferrari, perhaps you have heard of them? Anyway, each and every car at the event had an accordion section in the intake. EVERY single car.... They are there for a reason, not because the manufacture decided to get cheap. Any intake I put on my car will be leaving this section in place. This is one of the many reasons I think this intake is a great design.

Exactly. Some very high end intake designs keep a lot of the OEM intake intact such as Gruppe M, which I hope they make an intake for the FRS/BRZ

[gmookher]

noobs

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by gmookher

noobs

lol.

[uspspro]

I should elaborate... the accordions themselves aren't a bottleneck... Just a pipe that maintains the same diameter as the throttle body would be slightly better. The cross-sectional area of the accordion pipe is smaller than the TB, if you take a look in the pipe.

The accordions are there to allow the pipe to bend without tearing. Generally, an airbox is fixed to the chassis, and the other end of the pipe is connected to the engine. The flex, over time, may degrade a more rigid system. Also, during maintenance, it is easier to flex the pipe out of the way without stressing it (like when changing the filter for example).

Even Ferrari and Porsche care about such things in their design. The AVO silicone piece (with their filter) made gains on the dyno. Now they might mostly be due to the filter, but nonetheless the combination made power.

[tomato86]

I hope Gruppe M makes an intake for this car, but this intake is awesome too. I had a Gruppe M on my Evo X.

[soros151]

Originally Posted by gmookher

noobs

lol! Who?

[showbe]

Anyone get this intake yet? Would be interested in how well it runs. Throw in the silicone tube / drop in filters this could probably net another couple whp. Its pretty pricey though. What I would like to know if its real carbon fiber or just some vinyl or whatever they put on fake CF items.

I am assuming its real bc of the price and that it states they are made by order.

[RedRocket]

Price Gouge. $1300 plus shipping? For that price I would expect 15-20hp. If it can deliver that without the silicone elbow, great.. if not, Well then I hope nobody buys it, and they are shamed into pricing products into more performance appropriate.

FR-S/BRZ Aftermarket parts prices are all about 200% what they should be. Compare to Honda parts, or even Supra parts... its insane.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by RedRocket

Price Gouge. $1300 plus shipping? For that price I would expect 15-20hp. If it can deliver that without the silicone elbow, great.. if not, Well then I hope nobody buys it, and they are shamed into pricing products into more performance appropriate.

FR-S/BRZ Aftermarket parts prices are all about 200% what they should be. Compare to Honda parts, or even Supra parts... its insane.

$1300 really isnt that bad. I'm only familiar with S2000 parts and it seems to be inline with those prices.

And if you expect 15-20hp for $1300 on any NA upgrade, I believe that isn't possible on this car

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by RedRocket

Price Gouge. $1300 plus shipping? For that price I would expect 15-20hp. If it can deliver that without the silicone elbow, great.. if not, Well then I hope nobody buys it, and they are shamed into pricing products into more performance appropriate.

FR-S/BRZ Aftermarket parts prices are all about 200% what they should be. Compare to Honda parts, or even Supra parts... its insane.

SYMS is always expensive. You're paying for that JDM name, yo!

[Mobius357]

More like superfluous carbon fiber that you can neither see nor feel. It's not structural so plastic would be the material of choice. The only weight savings here would be in your wallet. Looks too me like 1300 to brag about something you can't even see.

[gmookher]

Originally Posted by Mobius357

More like superfluous carbon fiber that you can neither see nor feel. It's not structural so plastic would be the material of choice. The only weight savings here would be in your wallet. Looks too me like 1300 to brag about something you can't even see.

plastic version for half price seems about right

[RedRocket]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

$1300 really isnt that bad. I'm only familiar with S2000 parts and it seems to be inline with those prices.

And if you expect 15-20hp for $1300 on any NA upgrade, I believe that isn't possible on this car

IF thats $1300 from Japan then I'll see it for 1500-1600 at my door step.

For that Price I could get a tune, and add twice as much horsepower and a competitors intake.

This isn't an S2000. It's a Suburu. Prices should be in line with other Boxer parts, and $1300 is 4x the price of a competitors intake.

I could justify $1300 for an intake IF it added 20HP. However, It will not... It'll add 5-10 HP(My Guess), and likely require a tune.

The required tune makes it a lot less desireable for people who use it as their everyday driver.

I think if they were trying to market this thing they need to work out the price better. Yes its CF, and thats pretty and all, but worth 4x the price of a similar piece? I don't think so..

[showbe]

Just interested in how it performs. It is unique compared to all the other intakes currently out. Id rather wait for more stuff to come out that with proven data. For 1300, Id rather wait for Perrins CAI. And like the poster above me said. You could do a lot with 1600.