Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 67 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jeebus · 09-17-2012, 01:57 AM

Here's what doesn't make sense about ethanol being the problem: there's a large number of frs/brz owners running e85 with one of the available ecutek tunes, and they aren't complaining about the chirp.

dsgerbc · 09-17-2012, 02:09 AM

^Who do you suggest they complain to?

jeebus · 09-17-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

^Who do you suggest they complain to?

I'm just sayin, one would expect that a) the chirping would be worse and b) they'd be mentioning the chirp in their e85 tune threads where they discuss issues....

sierra · 09-17-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jeebus

Here's what doesn't make sense about ethanol being the problem: there's a large number of frs/brz owners running e85 with one of the available ecutek tunes, and they aren't complaining about the chirp.

The HPFP in those cars will be running differently to supply the much higher fuel flow and it is much higher. That might be keeping the component that chirps, when hot, cool enough not to chirp?
It might also be running at higher pressure which could have an affect too?

That's just a couple of scenarios off the top of my head.

jarviz · 09-17-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ayetothejay

just got my car back from the dealership and chirp is gone from the replacement part. of course, its gonna take some miles before I can say I it worked or not so I'll update after some miles.

What did they replace? Anybody else try bringing it into the dealership for this issue and came out successfully?

I tried talking to mine and they said they'll look into it. They tell me that Scion technicians have been looking into this issue and the sound is actually normal for this kind of engine design.... I wasn't sure how to argue.

dsgerbc · 09-17-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jarviz

I wasn't sure how to argue.

Tell them to fire-up a brand new FR-S and see if the sound is there. It won't be.

Norkoastal · 09-17-2012, 07:22 PM

Just called local Subie dealer to mention the insects infesting my motor.. Explanation was "normal" and "DI is noisier than other systems." Sound like there aren't enough of us complaining yet to make them take proactive changes.

dsgerbc · 09-17-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Norkoastal

Just called local Subie dealer to mention the insects infesting my motor.. Explanation was "normal" and "DI is noisier than other systems." Sound like there aren't enough of us complaining yet to make them take proactive changes.

From previous page:

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Originally Posted by Spartan65

SNo use wondering or pondering about it, if the dealer trys to blow you off like mine did call SOA 1-866-707-2466 open a case and be entitled to resolution.

bucket · 09-17-2012, 09:02 PM

Another data point for ethanol gas causing/contributing to the crickets. For my last fill up I tracked down a station selling ethanol free gas, and I have heard very little since. About 2000 miles on the clock, and it has been chirping since I first got the car. Down to 1/2 tank of ethanol free (running on fumes when I filled up), so it has been about a week. Gas brands I've used previously: Shell, 7-11, Mobil, Exxon, and BP...all were about the same.

Personally, it doesn't really bother me, but I thought I would give the pure gas a shot and see if that really made a difference.

jeebus · 09-17-2012, 10:46 PM

My crickets sound louder today. I could hear them with the windows up and AC on. Same gas as always (chevron 91 Cali piss)

rapidcars · 09-17-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeebus

My crickets sound louder today. I could hear them with the windows up and AC on. Same gas as always (chevron 91 Cali piss)

Not to scare you but I noticed the same thing right before my CEL came on. I had noticed it before but this time it was obnoxiously loud.

jeebus · 09-17-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rapidcars

Not to scare you but I noticed the same thing right before my CEL came on. I had noticed it before but this time it was obnoxiously loud.

I'll keep my fingers crossed. I can ignore some chirping for now, but I'd rather not have drivability issues.

smokeyFRS · 09-17-2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeebus

I'll keep my fingers crossed. I can ignore some chirping for now, but I'd rather not have drivability issues.

Have you had your first oil change? I had the cricket sound from 300 - 1100 miles. Took it in to KM Scion/Toyota for the first oil change @ 1150 and have not heard it since. I'm using Chevron 91. Subaru is just right down the street. Try it and see.

Spartan65 · 09-17-2012, 11:35 PM

Scion of America Said they would reimburse me for 150.00 by faxing in receipts from the parts dept. Guess I'll get some mud flaps and a trunk liner

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jeebus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Mustang GT (on order) Location: San Diego Posts: 904 Thanks: 114 Thanked 471 Times in 208 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here's what doesn't make sense about ethanol being the problem: there's a large number of frs/brz owners running e85 with one of the available ecutek tunes, and they aren't complaining about the chirp. __________________

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jeebus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Mustang GT (on order) Location: San Diego Posts: 904 Thanks: 114 Thanked 471 Times in 208 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My crickets sound louder today. I could hear them with the windows up and AC on. Same gas as always (chevron 91 Cali piss) __________________

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bucket Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 4 wheels Location: tampa bay Posts: 108 Thanks: 7 Thanked 25 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Another data point for ethanol gas causing/contributing to the crickets. For my last fill up I tracked down a station selling ethanol free gas, and I have heard very little since. About 2000 miles on the clock, and it has been chirping since I first got the car. Down to 1/2 tank of ethanol free (running on fumes when I filled up), so it has been about a week. Gas brands I've used previously: Shell, 7-11, Mobil, Exxon, and BP...all were about the same. Personally, it doesn't really bother me, but I thought I would give the pure gas a shot and see if that really made a difference.

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