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Old 09-17-2012, 03:31 PM   #449
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heh! I have 2300 miles on my car and I've experienced the idle dip only twice so far. That last time was last Friday. No CEL. But I'm keeping a close eye on this thread. Hate feeling like it's only a matter of time
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heh! I have 2300 miles on my car and I've experienced the idle dip only twice so far. That last time was last Friday. No CEL. But I'm keeping a close eye on this thread. Hate feeling like it's only a matter of time
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:53 PM   #451
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Just an update, they ended up just flashing the ECU. They were previously were going also going to replace the camshaft. I'm getting my car back today, but I'm worried that the issue will come right back. Maybe by now they've figured it out? I doubt it but we shall see.
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samfrs, FR-S, 42 miles, 7076XX, 3 weeks, in shop, NJ, a sh*t load of parts replaced on the first attempt to fix the CEL issue, now replacing ECU and expecting to be ready for pick up later today.


Update: issue fixed!

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Just an update, they ended up just flashing the ECU. They were previously were going also going to replace the camshaft. I'm getting my car back today, but I'm worried that the issue will come right back. Maybe by now they've figured it out? I doubt it but we shall see.
Which shop? Please keep us updated how the car drives, as this seems to be the solution atm with new ECU software.

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This also confirms that the CEL issue actually is in the ECU!!
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Just an update, they ended up just flashing the ECU. They were previously were going also going to replace the camshaft. I'm getting my car back today, but I'm worried that the issue will come right back. Maybe by now they've figured it out? I doubt it but we shall see.

Please keep us updated. Please note any difference in drivability, engine behavior, etc.

More and more signs are pointing to an ECU flash being the ultimate fix. Let's hope this is the case.
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Spoke to my service guy again today. Car still being repaired. Tech worked some Friday, Saturday and now today. Nothing so far gives me confidence that the tech won't screw something up since it is his first time despite 20 years experience, none of which is on Subaru's. No telling when it will be officially fixed, but maybe any day now. My feeling about the car can never be the same since I know it was already torn apart while still a baby.

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Old 09-17-2012, 05:10 PM   #456
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Just called my dealer for an update. they will need to keep it overnight to further look at it, but they are leaning towards the cam gear. I mentioned to the adviser the last couple of re flashes that hae been happening according to the forum this past week and my service adviser said he will look into it and update me tomorrow.
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Soooooo..... After 24 days I have my car back. Here's my "fix"



Throwing on my suspension, other wheels/tires on, oil change, alignment then have a trackday at Gateway Motorsports Park Wednesday.
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SHOULD BE NEW OR REFLASHED ECU FROM NOW ON OUT
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:19 PM   #460
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SHOULD BE NEW OR REFLASHED ECU FROM NOW ON OUT
My FR-S received the same ECU P/N as you, but it also got a new oil control valve and cam sprocket assy. This leads me to believe damage may still be occuring to other hardware on a case by case basis due to a) faulty original ECU code AND/OR b) quality issues with sprocket/valve manufacturing.

The new ECU could be compensating for the poorer manufacturing tolerances with optimized code; something the old code was likely not capable of performing. Therefore, new vehicles may now get away with just a reflash as well as existing vehicles recording a fault code showing no hardware damage.

This is all just a theory, but we'll see how this plays out over the next few weeks.
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Chinadian, FR-S, 120 km, in shop, Canada

Great to hear some good news from some of you guys!

For me, scion keeps telling me they are waiting for a part maybe ECU? But they have no estimated date for when it will arrive. So noone is working on my car, and it is just sitting in the dealership awaiting "the part". And the Scion rep beats around the bush about what is going on. She said that there are engineers currently working on a permanent fix and then once they get a permanent fix they will create the part and manufacture it.

Does it make any sense?

Im driving a Camry Rental car that is all scratched up. Is that acceptable?
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:33 PM   #462
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Just finished second pass at repairs, sensors and ECU this time

I think I was number 7 in your combined list.
That first time, they replaced cam gear sensor or cam gear (was hard to get good detail) on one head.
Problem returned around 1700 miles.
They replaced the same bits on the other head, then were able to reproduce the problem again.
Finally replaced my ECU after getting the wrong part air freighted from Japan. Apparently the ECU for manual and for automatic are not interchangeable.

About three days the first time, and just shy of three weeks this time.

I sacrificed some rubber to the Gods of Hooning on the way home to try to appease them. This car is stupid easy to have fun with on cloverleaf onramps.

I suppose it's possible that a bad batch of cam gear sensors can send an unrecognized signal to the ECU. Could that cause permanent damage to an ECU over time? Is the software fix from the school of We'll Just Ignore That Odd Sensor And Mask Those Alerts? I'm just glad to be out of that loaner Civic sedan in Rental Special trim level.

Oh, and my VIN's a 7067xx.

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