XXR527 Chromium black 18x8.75 Hankook Ventus 225-40 Black BRZ

[RAYSSPL]

Originally Posted by NotSoJDM

As a wheel designer, can you share some factual data? So far, all I see is open ended statements that you have yet to back up. "Gravity cast wheels fatigue 'much' quicker?" Ok, compared to what, and by how much. Lets see some quantifiable information.

Seeing as how we have a 400hp ls1 swapped 240sx running Rotas on 255 Hoosiers at the track, I find it hard to believe you have any experience with wheel design.

Not to mention that you start out your argument against a gravity cast wheel, yet Enkei's number one selling race wheel (RPF1s) are a gravity cast wheel....

OP. Your wheels look great.

You are flat out wrong. Enkei's RPF1 is NOT gravity cast. It may start out that way due to hot liquid aluminum pouring, but that process is just the beginning. It is flow formed-- that's the technical nomenclature for it [but their in-house term is called "MAT"]. I will say it again--GOOGLE IT. In a sense, the RPF1's is a semi-forged wheel.

If you can't piece the puzzle together and you get the RPF1 wrong--then there's no point in providing you "factual data". All the n00bs ask for that too anyways.

Piece the puzzle yourself as I certainly most did. I already provided couple of the pieces, but I won't hand it to you in a silver platter. I'm not defensive about it. It is what it is. If I'm wrong, I won't hesitate to admit.

But at the end of the day true facts are true facts. False facts are useless and not facts. In which, I will now end any discussion with you since you are providing false facts.

[SkAsphalt]

Correct, experienced, informed or educated... or perhaps none of the above...you're coming across like an idiot. 1. you said "n00bs," it is not the early 2000's and we not playing against you in Tribes or Counter Strike. 2. Who even says "false facts?" There are no such things, perhaps in philosophy, but there a false fact is allowed to exist so that it may define itself. Someone can claim facts to be true which are actually incorrect but that does not make them "false facts," that makes them inaccurate, incorrect, wrong, fallacy, etc.

The point I am trying to make to make here is this; if you are certain than provide information and resources to back it up. If not, just stay quite.

OP This rims are delicious, I have been thinking of buying the same ones in bronze for my car.

Originally Posted by RAYSSPL

If you can't piece the puzzle together and you get the RPF1 wrong--then there's no point in providing you "factual data". All the n00bs ask for that too anyways.

Piece the puzzle yourself as I certainly most did. I already provided couple of the pieces, but I won't hand it to you in a silver platter. I'm not defensive about it. It is what it is. If I'm wrong, I won't hesitate to admit.

But at the end of the day true facts are true facts. False facts are useless and not facts. In which, I will now end any discussion with you since you are providing false facts.

[NotSoJDM]

Way to contradict yourself by saying I'm flat out wrong and the next sentence say the wheels may "start out that way".

Search "rpf1 gravity cast" on google. The first result is from tire rack and it specifically says the rpf1 and pf01 are gravity cast wheels...

And you were saying? I was flat out right?

[epson1]

I just want to chime in I've hit 105mph reverse entries in my 1jz s14 drift car and pretty much beat the shit out of it with dirt drops and other harsh things. All on XXRs. I track my car harder than you and my wheels haven't failed....

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by random hero

Jesus... Can you wheel weight geeks troll somewhere else.

I could give less of a shit about wheel weights, I just find the use of the term strength very funny when referring to XXR's.

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by ill roller

I could give less of a shit about wheel weights, I just find the use of the term strength very funny when referring to XXR's.

I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

[RYU]

Originally Posted by random hero

Have a lot of parts on the way, the wheels showed up today, just a teaser pic.. tomorrow will be mounted and on the car, hopefully will have suspension sorted out by next week. Offset +35; 19.9 Pounds on my scale

Any dead-on shots of how much they poke when lowered with the 225s?

Subscribing for that. Thanks!

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by empower-auto

I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[empower-auto]

Originally Posted by ill roller

I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Fail under what circumstance? If it's due to contact - that's life holmes.

Also - if any wheels were just failing under load they'd be PLASTERED over the car forums. Remember the warped Rota?

[RYU]

Can we set aside the wheel debate and get back on-topic please??

I think the people actually buying these wheels know what they're getting into.

[random hero]

Originally Posted by ill roller

I do the same and have seen several of them fail... I've never seen a woman shit on a man's chest before, but just cause I haven't seen it in person doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Seriously .... go troll in another thread. It's easy to sit in front of the computer and shit talk people on these forums, I get it.. but it's flat out lame.

You want attention this bad shave your man-frow into a heart and walk naked into a senior citizens home, but take the interweb shit talking somewhere else, your douchery is crowding the thread

[random hero]

Originally Posted by epson1

I just want to chime in I've hit 105mph reverse entries in my 1jz s14 drift car and pretty much beat the shit out of it with dirt drops and other harsh things. All on XXRs. I track my car harder than you and my wheels haven't failed....

Originally Posted by empower-auto

I spend all summer around drift cars rocking XXR's .. and old SportMaxx wheels. I am yet to see one fail. They beat the shit out of these cars too.

Originally Posted by empower-auto

Fail under what circumstance? If it's due to contact - that's life holmes.

Also - if any wheels were just failing under load they'd be PLASTERED over the car forums. Remember the warped Rota?

Thanks guys... real world info is priceless (for those of who you spend hours reading "facts" online). Whatever the construction method is, these wheels are strong, in the fact people track them, beat on them and they haven't failed because of a design flaw.

I actually hold race licenses, been around real race tracks (not empty k-mart parking lot on a Saturday night @ 3am w/neon lights on my civic) and have seen countless more people running "gravity cast" wheels like Rota, XXR, Enkei's than these high $$$$, superior construction, blinged out wheels. I have yet to ever see first hand, or read online of an XXR, ROTA, whatever gravity cast wheel fail under normal/track driving.... so please.... put your wheel design knowledge in your backpack, and penis's back in your shorts and debate the facts in your own thread, por favor :happy0180:

[random hero]

Originally Posted by RYU

Any dead-on shots of how much they poke when lowered with the 225s?

Subscribing for that. Thanks!

sorry man, been slacking, cars sat for 2 weeks w/the Eibach springs next to. I've been swamped w/a wedding and Paramedic school, I'll get them installed and post pics soon

[ill roller]

Originally Posted by random hero

Seriously .... go troll in another thread. It's easy to sit in front of the computer and shit talk people on these forums, I get it.. but it's flat out lame.

You want attention this bad shave your man-frow into a heart and walk naked into a senior citizens home, but take the interweb shit talking somewhere else, your douchery is crowding the thread

I'm not trolling, nor shit talking, just not a fan of letting misinformation spread. The facts have already been stated here, so all that was left to do was laugh.

Originally Posted by empower-auto

Fail under what circumstance? If it's due to contact - that's life holmes.

Also - if any wheels were just failing under load they'd be PLASTERED over the car forums. Remember the warped Rota?

How is that life if they break under contact? Quality wheels do not typically shatter on contact, they bend or break on a much smaller scale. I've watched works bounce off curbs and come out undamaged after seeing xxrs break to pieces from the same thing. I've seen rotas sheer all the spokes off from going off track. These things happen, whether you want to be in denial about them or not.

At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. Cheap wheels are poorly made, heavily, weak, and typically a good amount uglier than the wheels that they're knocking off.

The end, I'll leave this thread alone so there's no more crying.