Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 63 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jayde · 09-08-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Username

Anyone have any word on a TSB?

jduffy · 09-08-2012, 06:23 PM

Still no chirping for me. I use either Chevron or Shell gas.

Spartan65 · 09-08-2012, 06:56 PM

I opened a case with SOA, they are aware of the issue, they were polite but very ambiguous as far as a resolution goes. I gave the district rep a list of issues and conveyed that this was never divulged prior to delivery of the car. They asked for time to contact the dealer to inform them of how SOA would resolve it. So now I play the waiting game.

alrashwa · 09-10-2012, 02:44 AM

I've tried the low ash 2-Cycle oil in the tank. Definitely quiets the noise, but it's still there when you are at idle or in a quiet enough area. My personal verdict: Helps but not the perfect solution. Will try ethanol free next and report back. Anyone have any word or rumors about the new injectors or if that's even really happening?

86BRZ · 09-10-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt Aigner

The chirping noise is from the high-speed fuel pump located on the top of the motor. Toyota is aware of the problem. A TSB will be issued in a few weeks . The high-speed fuel pump will be replaced with a modified unit. The pumps are in production and intransit from Japan. When all of the USA warehouses have inventory on the new pump the TSB will be releasd and available for the dealers to order.

How do I know ? I also own a GT86, and have been the parts manager at this dealership for 30 years with a good friend in the powertrain division at TMS Calif.

Please post an update when your dealership have the new pump installed in a problem car and the noise goes away.

smokeyFRS · 09-10-2012, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 86BRZ

Please post an update when your dealership have the new pump installed in a problem car and the noise goes away.

I had an oil change around 1100 miles and the chirp went away. Try that just for now, until we hear something.

No TSB at the moment, but there's a complaint filed recently:

Make : SCION Model : FR-S Year : 2013
Manufacturer : TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION
Crash : No Fire : No Number of Injuries: 0
ODI ID Number : 10474058 Number of Deaths: 0
Date of Failure: August 8, 2012
VIN : JF1ZNAA18D1...
Component: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Summary:
MY NEW CAR HAS BEEN IN AND OUT OF THE SHOP FOR THE PAST MONTH (4 TIMES). THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT KEEPS COMING ON AND THE DEALER DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO FIX IT. THE CAR DOES NOT ALSO SEEM TO BE ABLE TO HOLD AN IDLE SPEED. WHEN MY FOOT HAS THE CLUTCH COMPLETELY DEPRESSED AND MY OTHER FOOT ON THE BRAKE, THE ENGINE IDLE JUST GOES FROM 500 TO 1000 AND BACK DOWN TO 500 AND THE CAR SHUDDERS AND ALMOST STALLS. THERE SEEMS TO BE OTHER SCION OWNERS OF THIS NEW CAR THAT ARE HAVING THE EXACT SAME ISSUE (THERE ARE INTERNET POST ON WEB FORUMS DATING BACK TO JUNE 2012) AND TOYOTA/SCION DOES NOT ACT LIKE THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AT ALL. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE CAR IS GOING TO STALL OR THE ENGINE SURGE WHEN I AM DRIVING IT. THE CAR IS AT A SCION DEALER FOR THE 4 TIME AND I WAS GIVEN NO ETA ON WHEN THE CAR MIGHT BE REPAIRED.

Marrk · 09-10-2012, 11:45 AM

^^The idle issue appears to be quite a bit more serious than the chirp issue, and I am not aware that Toyota has begun to address this in the same way that I am aware that TSBs for the chirp issue seem to be on the way.

Has anyone heard of a fix or a TSB from Toyota about the idle issue? (If it's already been posted, sorry for the repeat.)

michaelahess · 09-10-2012, 04:25 PM

Mine is chirping now more than when I had 10% ethanol gas in it. It's not BAD but it's more noticeable after driving for a while. I changed my oil to RP, might have something to do with it, but it's also been cooler out the last few days.

Brimford · 09-11-2012, 12:27 AM

I will definitely agree, almost 4k miles and my chirping is worse now than at 1-2k.

You guys are having a much different experience than i am with SOA. I tell them Ithat I am upset the car didn't make the noise when i bought it and they send me an arbitration form. Maybe i should pursue it and see if i can get them to do anything...

rainmonkey · 09-11-2012, 11:47 PM

Just started chirping after I filled up with 93 Octane with some Ethanol and... other stuff... Not sure what the dealer filled it up with, but before my filling, it was fine.

Maybe it IS fuel related...

JimmyMac · 09-12-2012, 12:54 AM

Try here?
http://pure-gas.org/

rainmonkey · 09-12-2012, 08:20 AM

hahaha MA doesnt have any puregas, already checked that :p

Appreciate the suggestion however, good sir.

Sh0tym3 · 09-12-2012, 01:19 PM

Hey guys,

I've said it before and I'll say it again lol. Take the car to the dealer. I took mine in and found out its the fuel pump. Replaced the fuel pump with a new one and now the noise is gone

No more trying to find gas that cancels out the noise.

Quick fix guys.

Fenrir · 09-12-2012, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0tym3

Hey guys,

I've said it before and I'll say it again lol. Take the car to the dealer. I took mine in and found out its the fuel pump. Replaced the fuel pump with a new one and now the noise is gone

No more trying to find gas that cancels out the noise.

Quick fix guys.

How many miles ago was that? Wouldn't be surprised if it came back, since something like a new fuel pump to correct this issue would probably be making more noise than a single person.

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,101	85.22%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.78%
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09-10-2012, 04:25 PM	#876
michaelahess Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: '13 GBS BRZ Lim, 2006 Dodge RAM MC Location: Wyoming Posts: 663 Thanks: 72 Thanked 148 Times in 98 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine is chirping now more than when I had 10% ethanol gas in it. It's not BAD but it's more noticeable after driving for a while. I changed my oil to RP, might have something to do with it, but it's also been cooler out the last few days. __________________ Mike's Car Journal

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09-08-2012, 06:23 PM	#870
jduffy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 157 Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Still no chirping for me. I use either Chevron or Shell gas.

09-10-2012, 02:44 AM	#872
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 230 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've tried the low ash 2-Cycle oil in the tank. Definitely quiets the noise, but it's still there when you are at idle or in a quiet enough area. My personal verdict: Helps but not the perfect solution. Will try ethanol free next and report back. Anyone have any word or rumors about the new injectors or if that's even really happening?

09-10-2012, 11:45 AM	#875
Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^The idle issue appears to be quite a bit more serious than the chirp issue, and I am not aware that Toyota has begun to address this in the same way that I am aware that TSBs for the chirp issue seem to be on the way. Has anyone heard of a fix or a TSB from Toyota about the idle issue? (If it's already been posted, sorry for the repeat.)

09-11-2012, 12:27 AM	#877
Brimford Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Whiteout / MT FR-S Location: Saint Louis Posts: 176 Thanks: 70 Thanked 40 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I will definitely agree, almost 4k miles and my chirping is worse now than at 1-2k. You guys are having a much different experience than i am with SOA. I tell them Ithat I am upset the car didn't make the noise when i bought it and they send me an arbitration form. Maybe i should pursue it and see if i can get them to do anything...

09-11-2012, 11:47 PM	#878
rainmonkey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ - Dark Grey Location: MA Posts: 298 Thanks: 7 Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just started chirping after I filled up with 93 Octane with some Ethanol and... other stuff... Not sure what the dealer filled it up with, but before my filling, it was fine. Maybe it IS fuel related...

09-12-2012, 12:54 AM	#879
JimmyMac Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2016 Miata Club Location: NC Posts: 785 Thanks: 183 Thanked 258 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Try here? http://pure-gas.org/

09-12-2012, 08:20 AM	#880
rainmonkey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ - Dark Grey Location: MA Posts: 298 Thanks: 7 Thanked 35 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	hahaha MA doesnt have any puregas, already checked that :p Appreciate the suggestion however, good sir.

09-12-2012, 01:19 PM	#881
Sh0tym3 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Silver Location: Oakville, ON, Canada Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey guys, I've said it before and I'll say it again lol. Take the car to the dealer. I took mine in and found out its the fuel pump. Replaced the fuel pump with a new one and now the noise is gone No more trying to find gas that cancels out the noise. Quick fix guys.

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