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Old 09-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #15
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This is a dyno of just the cat back system. The base 167 HP and 134 TQ. on a mustang dyno. our first run we gained 0 HP. On our second we gained 1 HP and 2 TQ. We decided to pull the power and reset the ECU. Then we got a 173 HP and 141 TQ, again of 6 HP and 7 TQ
Reading this makes me think of the HP and TQ gains that Boosted 2.0 got just by resetting the ECU. So did the exhaust actually provide any gains? The question may still be unanswered.
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Old 09-09-2012, 01:11 AM   #17
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Awesome exhaust clayrush! Looking forward to see this in person!
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:15 AM   #18
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I'm no expert but given that you had to reset the ECU to see any power gains I think this is anecdotal evidence that at near-stock power levels the stock exhaust is not a power limiter. in other words, buy this (and other aftermarket exhausts) for the sound or the look or the weight savings perhaps but NOT for power gains. IMO.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:23 AM   #19
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I'm no expert but given that you had to reset the ECU to see any power gains I think this is anecdotal evidence that at near-stock power levels the stock exhaust is not a power limiter. in other words, buy this (and other aftermarket exhausts) for the sound or the look or the weight savings perhaps but NOT for power gains. IMO.
Yeah yall are probably right. I hope we get something with an intake at least. Who knows the cpu could be all like "screw your muffler and better air flow, I aint gonna use that shit."
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wow those tips are way too long
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That fitment is actually better than the horrible fitment of the Agency Power exhaust I saw on another car.

The AP Header does sound like a good old Subaru though. (I know you don't have that part, just saying).
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:01 AM   #22
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wow those tips are way too long
I agree. I wonder if they'll be any issues of carbon build-up on the rear of the car as a result.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:05 AM   #23
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I agree. I wonder if they'll be any issues of carbon build-up on the rear of the car as a result.
Honest question, why would there be carbon build up in the back if the tip ends are farther away from the car than normal?
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I dunno, I spoke to Vivid, and had higher hopes, seems they pitch AP pretty hard- same company, and well, I'm just not impressed with the AP stuff based on my reads and pics..

They seem to keep sending out stuff that doesnt help their PR, and then it seems they are playing damage control. I dunno, anyone else catching this?
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Honest question, why would there be carbon build up in the back if the tip ends are farther away from the car than normal?
Instead of ending up on the underside and backside of the grey-black "diffuser" part, the exhaust gas goes up onto the rear bumper and trunk. On some cars, there will even be paint yellowing (on white cars).
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Instead of ending up on the underside and backside of the grey-black "diffuser" part, the exhaust gas goes up onto the rear bumper and trunk. On some cars, there will even be paint yellowing (on white cars).
Thanks for kindly explaining. I ask because I have always seen this happen with exhausts which tips were too far in. Time will tell.

@clayrush keep us updated.
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Instead of ending up on the underside and backside of the grey-black "diffuser" part, the exhaust gas goes up onto the rear bumper and trunk. On some cars, there will even be paint yellowing (on white cars).
My pearl white wrx turned yellow and I didn't even have an exhaust. It's why I went wrb for my BRZ.
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Here's a pic on my car. Theres a middle sleeve that allows you to bring the axle back section forwards or backwards depending for your preference. I have the full header back including the catless overpipe, gotta dyno it and see how it is with e85 tune since all my baseline dynos up until this point are recorded thanks to Visconti.

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