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fiveoneoh · 09-06-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala

Well if that's true we've known for a long time that the FR-S suspension is a little "softer" so that would make sense in ride quality.

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Originally Posted by FRiSson

Half the reviews report that the FR-S is softer, and the other half claim that the BRZ's is softer. I think it is a subjective issue. As for the headlights, HID's don't automatically mean better, just brighter. Sometimes lights can be so bright that reflections can be jarring.

I thought the BRZ had a softer suspension (for what I remember reading was due to slightly older/mature market)? Is there any way to confirm which one's which?

FRiSson · 09-06-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fiveoneoh

I thought the BRZ had a softer suspension (for what I remember reading was due to slightly older/mature market)? Is there any way to confirm which one's which?

I think the FR-S has stiffer settings in the rear that help enhance drifting. Whether that makes for an overall stiffer ride is unclear to me. I'd have to ask an engineer. I don't think it is easy to quantify ride stiffness, since it is a product of tires, bushings, springs and all kinds of other factors.

ngabdala · 09-07-2012, 12:16 AM

BRZ , Softer.

fiveoneoh · 09-07-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala

BRZ , Softer.

yeah, that was my experience, too. i was just wondering if it could be pinpointed to a specific attribute, but like frisson said, it's a combination of many things

QFry · 09-07-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brzranger

How so? A selling point for the BRZ is the hid headlights, typo?

I personally have problems with most HID headlights do to glasses and whatnot (to much glare for me) so i completely agree with the headlight assesment...but HIDs do "look" cooler when seen from outside the vehicle.

BRZranger · 09-07-2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by QFry

I personally have problems with most HID headlights do to glasses and whatnot (to much glare for me) so i completely agree with the headlight assesment...but HIDs do "look" cooler when seen from outside the vehicle.

For me, driving w/ HIDs illuminates the road better for me and I can see farther and more clearly vs traditional headlights.

In fact, even the public buses here use HIDs.

And they def look cooler!

#87 · 09-07-2012, 02:58 AM

I agree about visibility but mine are aimed too low... I dont think I should drive more than 50 on pitch black roads without high beams on. I need to look up the adjustment procedure and raise them a slight amount. I have the dash control at their maximum height. Luckily my normal commute is street lit

sho220 · 09-07-2012, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brzranger

How so? A selling point for the BRZ is the hid headlights, typo?

Not for everyone. I'll gladly take well designed "normal" headlights over HID's any day...

BRZranger · 09-07-2012, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by #87

I agree about visibility but mine are aimed too low... I dont think I should drive more than 50 on pitch black roads without high beams on. I need to look up the adjustment procedure and raise them a slight amount. I have the dash control at their maximum height. Luckily my normal commute is street lit

Yeah, they could be aimed a bit higher, but then we'd be shining at other drivers' vision. Probably more pronounced on our already low cars.

ngabdala · 09-08-2012, 08:48 AM

Ealier in the thread I made an error. What I meant to say was FR-S is softer

fiveoneoh · 09-08-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ngabdala

Ealier in the thread I made an error. What I meant to say was FR-S is softer

what, really? The FRS is a softer suspension than the BRZ?

@Art_Mighty · 09-12-2012, 08:54 AM

This Thread Needs Video...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwz7Ybpy1U"]Scion FR-S vs Subaru BRZ at Consumer Reports test track[/ame]

2forty · 01-22-2013, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sho220

Not for everyone. I'll gladly take well designed "normal" headlights over HID's any day...

Sorry but the projector in the brz is much better than the frs. It's not some random projector with a pnp kit. It's an hid projector and designed for it. The same projector found in the rx350. I'm not sure what tests they're running but it should be no contest in light output. Feel free to find info on hidplanet.

jpit · 02-23-2013, 09:29 PM

Consumer Reports retested one of the cars with better tires and said that they would have scored it 5 points higher with those tires.

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