TPMS light

[Willsonk]

No rotation is needed ......... Sensors will send signal to TPMS CPU no matter what. Thats why sensors must be kept in the car. I am TPMS installer tech. Best example if you want to TPMS system work on your new wheels without disabling the system or have to buy new sensors. Band w/ cradle. Its a cradle that holds the TPMS sensor and the metal band is strapped in the inside of the rim.

[neutron256]

Originally Posted by Willsonk

No rotation is needed ......... Sensors will send signal to TPMS CPU no matter what. Thats why sensors must be kept in the car. I am TPMS installer tech. Best example if you want to TPMS system work on your new wheels without disabling the system or have to buy new sensors. Band w/ cradle. Its a cradle that holds the TPMS sensor and the metal band is strapped in the inside of the rim.

TPMS installer or not, unless you've acutally tried this and it's worked what your saying goes against all information I've been able to find.

Please site your source, or test this.

[bAS1c]

Originally Posted by neutron256

TPMS installer or not, unless you've acutally tried this and it's worked what your saying goes against all information I've been able to find.

Please site your source, or test this.

I'm not trying to start anything, but why don't you cite your sources, since you want everyone else to. I see that you like to chime in on TPMS threads saying that they require rotation, but I don't see you providing any evidence to confirm this.

After a very quick search I don't see any credible source to say that they have either toyota (no rotation needed) or subaru (rotation) sensors, nor do I see anyone who has tried the pipe bomb/spare/parking next to them.

Again not trying to be argumentative just trying to facilitate informed discussion.

I agree that if the OP does in fact have data to show that just by parking next to his stock wheels the light goes off them I'd like to know that. I'm quite interested in getting an answer on this so I can build a pipe for them or throw them in my spare like the OP suggested.

[Turbowned]

Assuming the sensors do not require rotation (pretty sure they don't), I see no reason why the OP's suggestion wouldn't work. If all four sensors are taped inside the spare and reading proper PSI, how could that not work? I'd rather just find a way to shut the bloody thing off entirely, but...

[feedbag]

Does anyone know if the car will allow you to disable TRAC / VSC if the TPMS system is throwing a flag?

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by feedbag

Does anyone know if the car will allow you to disable TRAC / VSC if the TPMS system is throwing a flag?

It will.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Assuming the sensors do not require rotation (pretty sure they don't), I see no reason why the OP's suggestion wouldn't work. If all four sensors are taped inside the spare and reading proper PSI, how could that not work? I'd rather just find a way to shut the bloody thing off entirely, but...

The sensors DO require rotation. Someone has already tried the "pipe bomb" method and it didn't work for that very reason.

[PrinzJ]

m pretty sure the spare has a higher pressure requirement than the four tires that is being use

[neutron256]

Originally Posted by bAS1c

I'm not trying to start anything, but why don't you cite your sources, since you want everyone else to. I see that you like to chime in on TPMS threads saying that they require rotation, but I don't see you providing any evidence to confirm this.

After a very quick search I don't see any credible source to say that they have either toyota (no rotation needed) or subaru (rotation) sensors, nor do I see anyone who has tried the pipe bomb/spare/parking next to them.

Again not trying to be argumentative just trying to facilitate informed discussion.

I agree that if the OP does in fact have data to show that just by parking next to his stock wheels the light goes off them I'd like to know that. I'm quite interested in getting an answer on this so I can build a pipe for them or throw them in my spare like the OP suggested.

Anything regarding Subaru's is irrelevant, I have checked with my scanner and the sensors at defiantly using a Toyota protocal.

I can't sight a source for Toyota sensors specifically not working. There are plenty of people who have gotten it to work on Toyotas, but as far as I can tell no one with anything newer then a 2008. I can find tons of people who couldn't get it to work but most don't provide details (make/model/year) so its hard to know if it didn't work because of the system, or something they did.

It's always harder to prove a negitive result then it is a positive one.

Since no one has tried it with our cars that is why I say please have done it yourself or site the source if your going to say it works.

I have a set sensors that will be going into my winter wheels. If I find myself with to much time on my hands this weekend I'll build a canister and test it out myself.

I'll be very happy if it works, but I'm doubtful.

[bAS1c]

Thanks for the detailed response as all of the data is kinda spread out on this topic. I saw your post that mentioned them being Toyota sensors.

I hope it works too, and await your test results.

As a side note I've had wheels with no tpms in them on the car since Monday and haven't seen the light yet.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by bAS1c

As a side note I've had wheels with no tpms in them on the car since Monday and haven't seen the light yet.

Have you taken it on any 40-50 mile drives? from what i hear, it can take a while after the ignition comes on for the light to show up.

[bAS1c]

No, but then again I don't do that very often at all. So am I right in assuming that if the light doesn't come on until the 40-50 mile mark that I won't really see the light that often. I estimate that I drive 40 miles without turning the engine off maybe once a month.

[neutron256]

Originally Posted by bAS1c

No, but then again I don't do that very often at all. So am I right in assuming that if the light doesn't come on until the 40-50 mile mark that I won't really see the light that often. I estimate that I drive 40 miles without turning the engine off maybe once a month.

It seems to be inconsistent some people see it right away, but I don't think anybody as gone more the 50 mile (continuous) without it coming on.

[michael317]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Source? This has been covered multiple times in the past on this board. It's the same reason that TPMS pipe bomb will not work with our cars.

So i have seen a lot of debate on this and i would like to end it! so what type of source would you like ? would you like me to video tape for about 100 miles and put it up to say that these sensors DO NOT require rotation? Like i stated before this is not your subaru system its a toyota system..... the pipe bomb method will not work due to the fact that you need 30PSI (pound per square inch. ) you can throw those sensor in the pipe hook up the scan tool and i can bet you that the light is on because there is not enough pressure in it. unless you make a decent size one. BUT if the sensor see 30 psi or more in that pipe then your light will be out. You can go on the nasioc forum and ask them how fast does the tpms light come on if they dont have their sensors. i will bet you they will tell you within 10 miles. why? Because i have a 2011 legacy GT with aftermarket wheelsthat i did my research on how to fool the system. you cant becuase it need rotation. BRZ is using toyota system which does not require rotation. Like i said... me being a subaru tech for 5 year and now a lexus tech for the past 6 years on my 7th now dont have much credit to your knowledge and i have no clue what i am talking about right? The reason i bought this car is because its the best of both worlds to me. only thing i cant access on my brz through my lexus tech stream is smart access because scion do not offer that option. BUT i can do everything else including looking up TSIBs, shop manual. I am here on this forum to share what i have found useful and i think i have enough experience to back me up. I am so confident because i have throw my set of tpms sensor into my spare knowing that i dont plan on using my spare and if i do oh well... the sensors break and i can fix it. BUT i do know is that i dont have a TPMS light and i have driven my car 50miles already more around 60miles to be exact. I will anti up.... IF you still dont think my theory works... fly over to NY.... i will drive you around for a few days... if during the time of your stay my light comes on i will cover your airfare and your stay at the hotel of your choice for the time you are here. BUT if the light stays off.... then that trip will be out of your own pocket...
how bout that?
cheers everyone