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ftw-86 · 05-17-2011, 05:22 PM

They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

xravexboix · 05-17-2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ftw-86

Toyota and Subaru already have plants here in America.

Make the sheet metal here with parts shipped from Japan. (Engine, chassis, etc)

Take a look at the Honda Accord before they brought it over as the TSX.
We got the big V6/I4 American Accord while Japan and Europe got the Euro Accord which was smaller with a four banger.

Since it's a low production unit, it will be made in Japan. The plants in Japan are capable in pumping out multiple vehicles at once (3-6 different ones per plant, and they can build a Crown next to a Estima w/o issue) while the US plants are specialized for specific vehicles. I think the newest plant they are building in the US will be able to be versatile like the most modern plants in Japan, but it's definitely not happening soon.

ichitaka05 · 05-17-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude

i REALLY hope the mule we're seeing will not be the final production version in the us b/c it's looks a lot more like the mkII than it does the FRS. WHAT THE HECK? did toyota not realize that most people didn't really like the mkII, but that everyone was drooling over the FRS? man. seriously, i hope toyota doesn't disappoint us.

iirc when we did MkI vs MkII vote, didn't MkII win?

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Originally Posted by Dark

On all these pics, what I expect the remain is the badge.

I think the weld area where the front badge located will stay there. I also expected the headlight to remain the same shape( lose the gimmick LED and showcar light for regular projector). Is that too much, Ichi?

Hm... not sure bout the headlight shape. IDK either and can't guarantee anything.

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Originally Posted by ftw-86

They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

Hm... that's gonna be hard, if they take away the vents near the hood, they gotta raise the front, so it doesn't look weird.

Over all, it's kinda funny to see how much thumbs down we're getting. It's kinda funny to see ppl are not figuring out why they're using MkII style for the test run. Now, these are my speculation.

Since MkI had a bit of complain/feedback from the driver they had to modify the chassis/pillar and they fixed it w MkII
Now, FR-S is shown, MkII became older model/concept. Which equal to use em as test car. Instead of welded parts together Impreza test car to figure how it actually drive.
MkI had 2 different designs: regular NA ver & Turbo ver (g's). Where's MkII's second ver? (well I guess, that can be said for MkIII).
Instead of using FiveAxis designed overdone FR-S as test car at the nur, it's reasonable to use MkII to finalize suspension/brake/engine/tranny/etc setup. Be honest here, MkIII looks awesome, but there's no way, that thing gonna be used as test car.
Lastly, prob did it for hell of it.

Dark · 05-17-2011, 05:52 PM

^^Now you're showing us some clues. LOL
That could be like what you said because FT-86 II debuted in EU and this car is tested in EU. They probably use the very similar body to the final car to test the aerodynamic and what not.

Niche79 · 05-17-2011, 05:56 PM

I hope toyota sticks with the II vs the FRS scion, thats a selling point alone!

RRnold · 05-17-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Did you expect these to stay too?

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Originally Posted by Flip

Okay, so no one obviously was expecting the diffuser or the brakes or the bumpers. That kind of stuff five axis probably did. That doesn't mean the overall body shape isn't going to remain.

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Originally Posted by ftw-86

They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

+1

I really liked the Five Axis version a lot but we can't really expect too much of that concept to merge into the final production; wide body fenders, lood and door lines, hood vents, side skirts, lower fender ducts, flat trunk etc.

It seemed like a joint effort between the 2 and thats it.

Random_Art · 05-17-2011, 06:22 PM

as long as it looks more angry than derpy, I'm good

iff2mastamatt · 05-17-2011, 06:24 PM

^ Never saw that sculpted photo. Nice find!

ichitaka05 · 05-17-2011, 06:27 PM

^It's on the fiveaxis site

kawazydude · 05-17-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

iirc when we did MkI vs MkII vote, didn't MkII win?

check the poll again, MkI vs MkII vs FRS. the FRS is winning by a LANDSLIDE.

ichitaka05 · 05-17-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude

check the poll again, MkI vs MkII vs FRS. the FRS is winning by a LANDSLIDE.

Yes, I know FR-S won. I was talking bout MkI vs MkII

JDMike · 05-17-2011, 06:35 PM

My vote goes for FRS. I like the body likes but not intrigued by the vents.

kawazydude · 05-17-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yes, I know FR-S won. I was talking bout MkI vs MkII

Actually, i jus looked at the poll again. And the Mk1 has almost 3 times more votes than the MkII (23 to 8). For your convenience, here's the link: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/poll....ults&pollid=58.

But the MkI has nothing to do with this. My point is that the mule looks like the MkII (which everyone would agree on) when I wished it looked like the FRS (which has 76 votes btw).

iff2mastamatt · 05-17-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kawazydude

Actually, i jus looked at the poll again. And the Mk1 has almost 3 times more votes than the MkII (23 to 8). For your convenience, here's the link: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/poll....ults&pollid=58.

But the MkI has nothing to do with this. My point is that this mule looks like the MkII (which everyone would agree on) when I wished it looked like the FRS (which has 76 votes btw).

No, there was a pole before this one with just the MKI and MKII. The MKII had more votes by a decent margin.

05-17-2011, 06:22 PM	#35
Random_Art professional smartass Join Date: Apr 2010 Drives: 16 speed mountain bike... Location: Georgia Posts: 659 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	as long as it looks more angry than derpy, I'm good __________________ Goodbye Celica, you served me well. http://artsofrandomness.blogspot.com/

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ftw-86 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: none Location: nowhere Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They can take away the vents but give me the lines!

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Dark Elite Padawan Join Date: Mar 2010 Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet Location: Shoreline, WA Posts: 3,498 Thanks: 197 Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^Now you're showing us some clues. LOL That could be like what you said because FT-86 II debuted in EU and this car is tested in EU. They probably use the very similar body to the final car to test the aerodynamic and what not.

05-17-2011, 05:56 PM	#33
Niche79 Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: '01 AND '91 Honda Preludes Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hope toyota sticks with the II vs the FRS scion, thats a selling point alone!

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JDMike Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: P11 Location: USA Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My vote goes for FRS. I like the body likes but not intrigued by the vents.

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