Got a few (<- keyword) newish details from a Toyo Dealer

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

being sarcastic?

No, you were saying none of the information was new, I was saying the 240 HP number is new (or at least, more specific).

And IMO, 240 HP would be pretty satisfying.

Edit, I'm an idiot. I misread the information... He never said 240... lol...

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

True... $150 is lil bit cheap side. Well, at least he didn't pay that $150

btw, I enjoy your sig quote

And yes.. thank god he didn't pay $150. Lol

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[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by xantonin

No, you were saying none of the information was new, I was saying the 240 HP number is new (or at least, more specific).

And IMO, 240 HP would be pretty satisfying.

Edit, I'm an idiot. I misread the information... He never said 240... lol...

Come again? Am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Flip

Talked to a guy from a Toyota Dealer today and got little little information from him. The two biggest things he said is that it got pushed back even further into 2012 (ie 2013 model debut) and he said the weight would be in the low 2000s. Confirmed 200hp, direct port injection, mid-high 20s in price. He hasn't heard anything official about the LSD but he said he's heard that it will have one.

Take it for what you will.

Originally Posted by Flip

The dealer guy also said that the car was going to be revolutionary!


And just FYI, I didn't just happen to be at a Toyota dealership and asked some random guy about the FR-S. He was taking names and deposits down to get the car and I asked him for some details and numbers. This is what he gave me. All the info he gave was reasonable and basically what we've been discussing, except maybe for the weight. I think it has some credence.

I also don't think he would just be lying about the weight to make the car seem better when all his other details were correct. It's not like he said that car will be 2200lbs, have 240 hp and will absolutely have an LSD. He also 'confirmed' that the car will not be turbo. (And I don't think the Toyota rep was lying to him for the same logic) Again, all things we know except the weight, so I think the weight could be accurate. And even if it isn't THAT low, I think we can be sure it will be well under 3k lbs.

But like I said, take it for what you will. Take it with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't completely dismiss it. At the very least, it isn't on the same level of "my friend's cousin's brother-in-law knows a guy who works at a Toyota dealership and he said that...".

xantonin, where are you getting this 240hp number from? There have been no reliable sources claiming that and I would not expect that at all from a NA 2.0L boxer priced as this car will be priced. I am confused by your comment.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

xantonin, where are you getting this 240hp number from? There have been no reliable sources claiming that and I would not expect that at all from a NA 2.0L boxer priced as this car will be priced. I am confused by your comment.

Maybe from here

Originally Posted by Flip

I also don't think he would just be lying about the weight to make the car seem better when all his other details were correct. It's not like he said that car will be 2200lbs, have 240 hp and will absolutely have an LSD. He also 'confirmed' that the car will not be turbo. (And I don't think the Toyota rep was lying to him for the same logic) Again, all things we know except the weight, so I think the weight could be accurate. And even if it isn't THAT low, I think we can be sure it will be well under 3k lbs.

I think, Xantonin just miss read it, that's all.

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Come again? Am I missing something?









xantonin, where are you getting this 240hp number from? There have been no reliable sources claiming that and I would not expect that at all from a NA 2.0L boxer priced as this car will be priced. I am confused by your comment.

You know, you quoted my entire post but didn't read the last line. No need for a smart ass response.

Originally Posted by xantonin

No, you were saying none of the information was new, I was saying the 240 HP number is new (or at least, more specific).

And IMO, 240 HP would be pretty satisfying.

Edit, I'm an idiot. I misread the information... He never said 240... lol...

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Maybe from here



I think, Xantonin just miss read it, that's all.

Yeah, I was skimming this topic and the way that line was phrased was almost ambiguous...

It's not like he said that car will be 2200lbs, have 240 hp and will absolutely have an LSD.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by xantonin

You know, you quoted my entire post but didn't read the last line. No need for a smart ass response.

Sorry nothing about my post was smart ass. Not sure why you are saying that. I was genuinely curious and confused. Re-read my comment. Nothing about it was snarky.

Btw, you must have edited your comment within the time I decided to reply to you.

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Sorry nothing about my post was smart ass. Not sure why you are saying that. I was genuinely curious and confused. Re-read my comment. Nothing about it was snarky.

Btw, you must have edited your comment within the time I decided to reply to you.

Impossible since you quoted it in your own post.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by xantonin

Impossible since you quoted it in your own post.

I read your post and you must have edited it within the time frame that I clicked quote on yours. I did not re-read your quote since I read it the first time and found the other quotes I quoted which went against what you thought. You misread it. No need to make a big deal out of it.

[xantonin]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I read your post and you must have edited it within the time frame that I clicked quote on yours. I did not re-read your quote since I read it the first time and found the other quotes I quoted which went against what you thought. You misread it. No need to make a big deal out of it.

It's not a big deal.

But when you quoted me calling myself an idiot and I myself admitting I misread it, and then re-read your reply to me, it came off as smart-assy.

I was merely calling it out as it appeared.

But you're probably right, I suppose that is possible. Seems to me we both made an innocent mistake.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by xantonin

It's not a big deal.

But when you quoted me calling myself an idiot and I myself admitting I misread it, and then re-read your reply to me, it came off as smart-assy.

I was merely calling it out as it appeared.

But you're probably right, I suppose that is possible. Seems to me we both made an innocent mistake.

Just for the record I did not call you an idiot. I was just curious where you had heard that info about the 240hp since there wasn't anything in this thread. I was just honestly curious. That's it.

[ryun84]

LOL. You two made my day. I love the internetz.

This thread is proof we need more info on this car pronto.

You hear that, Toyota/Scion?! Get us some damn FR-S specs STAT or we WILL get nasty!!

[Dark]

^^ maybe Ichi can throw in some numbers or just answer with yes and no questions. LOL

[ft86cbx]

All this speculation about figures and performance, but does anyone honestly expect anything vastly different to 200bhp and 0-60 in about 6.5?

I would be shocked if the figures will be much different to this and it is purely my opinion and guess that they wont be more than 5% out. And to be honest I dont think 5% either way is going to turn this car from hero to zero.

200bhp and 6.5 is pretty much what other 2.0 NA engines go for (in the UK) which is what my guess is based on.

Of course I would love Toyota to just out the figures, but im more interested in what they price it at and how it drives as the figures are only part the story.