So, how is the navigation?

[DSPographer]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Please tell me about this fix? I never heard about it.

My NAV works great but my radio reception is lacking.

This fix is just for the Nav not knowing the car's location. It won't change your radio reception. If your Nav always knows your location then you don't need the fix. But, I think you should still have your dealer install the latest firmware the next time you bring in your car for maintenance. Here is my post about the fix:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...d=1#post399807

[MmmHamSandwich]

Thread's already derailed so oh well...

Originally Posted by Laika

If you think $300 HID's are comparable to the BRZ stock HID's you're gonna be in for a treat. The bad kind. Like getting raisins on Halloween.

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Yeah I don't think people really know that stuff. Proper HID is crisp, precise, whereas HID kits are not. The light leaks out every where. I wish people would look this up for themselves. Philips used to make a nice kit but that's gone now

No offense guys but I used to work for one of the most renowned retrofitters in the U.S. so I am familiar with PnP kits as compared to OEM projectors and replicas and dare say I have more experience with retrofits than you all. The Morimoto's are pretty damn good projectors on their own, and people have installed them on this and other forums with very good results.

Originally Posted by DSPographer

I don't think it is fair to count all of the difference in price between the FR-S and BRZ to the Nav. As others have pointed out, the DRL and HID lights and a nicer looking interior with the toggle switches should also count for the BRZ.

They do, when you are talking about the $3300 more Limited, which personally I have no interest in.

[DSPographer]

Sorry about continuing the FR-S vs BRZ trend. I think it is very nice to have a factory Nav unit that is always ready with your location when you need it. But, I don't think the BRZ Nav with its quirky user interface is worth $1000.

Originally Posted by DSPographer
I don't think it is fair to count all of the difference in price between the FR-S and BRZ to the Nav. As others have pointed out, the DRL and HID lights and a nicer looking interior with the toggle switches should also count for the BRZ.

Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

They do, when you are talking about the $3300 more Limited, which personally I have no interest in.

I have the limited, but I think the DRL, HID and toggle switches are standard on all BRZ. Here is a list of what the limited adds to the premium BRZ:


LIMITED
Push Start Button & Bluetooth Keyless Access with Smart Key Answer-back electronic chirp
Black Leather/Alcantara upholstery
Dual-Zone Automatic climate control
Heated front seats
Heated side mirrors
Fog Lights
Rear Trunk Spoiler

[DantKR]

In recent days I have found the heated side mirrors to be fkn amazing. I love push start and the keyless entry. My wife has a key and I never have to unlock the door for her(I still open the door for her on dates :P) The trunk opener from the proximity of the key is also very nice. The leather to me isn't all its cracked up to be. Dual-zone is nice. Fog lights I don't care about.

[Zaggeron]

IMHO, the Nav unit is no better than an aftermarket unit -- In fact, the way it functions, it might as well be aftermarket. Others have mentioned its unintuitive settings screens. What I would add to that is that none of the car's functions are integrated into the NAV unit -- at least that I have found so far. My other experience with an OEM Nav unit was on my Z. On that unit, all the computer functions including gas mileage history, maintenance reminders, HVAC displays, etc. are integrated into the NAV unit's display. I get none of that with the BRZ unit. It is simply a NAV + radio with no other native car functions accessible through the unit.

[reeves]

Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

Seeing as the FR-S is $1300 cheaper, and you can get bolt in HID's for $300, to me the navigation needs to be comparable to a $1000 aftermarket unit to justify the cost. Seems like a tall order given what I've heard so far.

Depends on whether Subaru/Toyota gives you free updates to the NAV system? And firmware updates.. that could make it worth the $$, seeing as how aftermarket units support for for free map udates are really lacking.

[poudre]

BRZ nav is not as simple to operate as my $200 Garmin.

Voice commands work well, much, much better than Corvette.

Honda nav (I've had 2) is easier to operate.

[DantKR]

Once you get the address in it works really well. But getting it in can be a pain.

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by MmmHamSandwich

They do, when you are talking about the $3300 more Limited, which personally I have no interest in.

Worked out to $50/month for me, so it was a no brainer when you look at the quality of the interior. When you consider the resale value will be better for the limited it is basically a wash. The nav isn't great but who cares, it's better than not having nav and it's essentially free.

[JWA]

Originally Posted by DantKR

I love push start and the keyless entry. My wife has a key and I never have to unlock the door for her(I still open the door for her on dates :P)

You can set it to automatically unlock both doors when you put your hand on either handle. There are instructions posted here somewhere. I think it was just to open the door and press and hold both the lock and unlock buttons on the fob at the same time for five seconds, until it beeps. Then it won't matter if she has the key with her.

[MmmHamSandwich]

Originally Posted by DSPographer

I have the limited, but I think the DRL, HID and toggle switches are standard on all BRZ.

Unfortunately the Premium and FRS share the same climate controls. They're ugly for sure, but oh well. I've broken down in other threads why I didn't want the limited untill I was blue in the face so I'll refrain here, suffice to say for me it just isn't worth the money and a few of the items I didn't even want.

[DantKR]

Originally Posted by JWA

You can set it to automatically unlock both doors when you put your hand on either handle. There are instructions posted here somewhere. I think it was just to open the door and press and hold both the lock and unlock buttons on the fob at the same time for five seconds, until it beeps. Then it won't matter if she has the key with her.

I don't mind nor does she(she thinks it's cool that she never has to take the keys out of her purse). But it's also a decent safety feature when she has the car alone so no one can just open the door on the other side.