Motortrend's Best Driver's Car 2012 preview: BRZ vs ZL1, GT500, Aventador, 911s, MP4 - Page 12 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SpeedR · 08-22-2012, 12:31 PM

nonono

switchlanez · 08-22-2012, 12:35 PM

This is how I would rank them based on Randy's remarks.

1. 911
2. C63 <--The regular automatic w/ torque converter was my biggest surprise of the shootout.
3. BRZ <-- "You're definitely not dealing with 500hp" and pad fade were the only criticisms I noticed.
4. Camaro
5. GT-R
6. McLaren
7. Mustang
8. Lambo
9. Jag

b.e · 08-22-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned

C63 AMG Overall: "It is just a terrific package, extremely satisfying to drive. It's almost like you took a Subaru BRZ, tightened up the shocks a little bit, and added 300 horsepower. That's kinda where this car is. It's that good."

I'm just sitting here pondering the fact that it takes a tweaked-out special version $100 grand car to beat the BRZ.

I'm surrounded by a happy glow!

grst1 · 08-22-2012, 01:09 PM

exactly my thinking!

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.e

I'm just sitting here pondering the fact that it takes a tweaked-out special version $100 grand car to beat the BRZ.

I'm surrounded by a happy glow!

Sev · 08-22-2012, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Ruh roh! Sounds like we may have a problem! I'm actually shocked to read this after seeing so many AMG's driven on Top Gear UK like they were just big tire-shredding German muscle cars.

Maybe.... but then again...

Quote:

On the transmission: I thought the transmission shifted very well for a torque-converter automatic. I got hung up in second gear off the hairpin. It revs fast and you gotta pull the shifter real early to avoid hitting the limiter. When I hit the limiter, it stayed there a long time. It felt awful, frankly, only because it was slowing me down.

krea.tion · 08-22-2012, 05:46 PM

This is gonna be pretty interesting to see the results. It could go so many different ways. My predictions:

1. 911 Carrera S
2. C63 AMG BS
3. Subaru BRZ
4. Nissan GT-R
5. Lambo Aventador
6. Shelby GT500
7. McLaren MP4-12C
8. Chevy Camaro ZL1
9. Jaguar XKRS

Chad · 08-22-2012, 06:18 PM

Kinda weird how he mentioned the BRZ has better handling and less prone to under-steer than the FR-S? Seems like all the reviews I've read say the opposite.. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

mkxr · 08-22-2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

Kinda weird how he mentioned the BRZ has better handling and less prone to under-steer than the FR-S? Seems like all the reviews I've read say the opposite.. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

Was thinking the same thing. So far everyone has been saying that the FRS is more tail happy because of the difference in the spring setup.

Chad · 08-22-2012, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkxr

Was thinking the same thing. So far everyone has been saying that the FRS is more tail happy because of the difference in the spring setup.

Glad i'm not the only one, thought i was going crazy lol. Unless the guy just made a mistake when recording. It would still make sense that the BRZ won the lap time over the FR-S for this reason because I've heard that it is faster on the track, sticks to the lines better. Just depends what you're going for I guess. I've also heard that the FR-S with better tires is an easy way to shave off the lap times and i bet would give the BRZ a run for its money. I'd like to see the two compared both with upgraded wheels and tires.

07stealth350z · 08-22-2012, 07:04 PM

My predictions

1. 911 Carrera S or Subaru BRZ
2. C63 AMG BS
3. Subaru BRZ or 911 Carrera S
4. Camaro ZL1
5. Nissan GT-R
6. McLaren MP4-12C
7. Lamborghini Aventador
8. Shelby GT500 or Jaguar XKR-S
9. Jaguar XKR-S or Shelby GT500

Rampage · 08-22-2012, 08:25 PM

My guess:

1. 911 Carrera S
2. Chevy Camaro ZL1
3. Nissan GT-R
4. Shelby GT500
5. Subaru BRZ
6. C63 AMG BS
7. McLaren MP4-12C
8. Lambo Aventador
9. Jaguar XKRS

Based on what I perceived as his level of enjoyment of each one and as "track car".

KaliKev · 08-22-2012, 08:29 PM

BRZ will have first place.

Its best drivers car, not track car. Most of those cars are terrible to drive on the regular anyways.

SnapOv3st3r · 08-22-2012, 08:56 PM

Interesting that at the intro to the BRZ hot lap, they stated it was less prone to Understeer like it's Scion twin...Orly?

Vracer111 · 08-22-2012, 09:18 PM

My guess:

1. Porsche 991 or Porsche 991...
2. Subaru BRZ or Mercedes C63 Black Edition
3. Mercedes C63 Black Edition or Subaru BRZ

08-22-2012, 12:35 PM	#156
switchlanez Glorious BRZ Master Race Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Subaru Libird Location: Race Wars Posts: 3,645 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 2,719 Times in 1,079 Posts Mentioned: 110 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is how I would rank them based on Randy's remarks. 1. 911 2. C63 <--The regular automatic w/ torque converter was my biggest surprise of the shootout. 3. BRZ <-- "You're definitely not dealing with 500hp" and pad fade were the only criticisms I noticed. 4. Camaro 5. GT-R 6. McLaren 7. Mustang 8. Lambo 9. Jag __________________ << BUILD THREAD >>

08-22-2012, 05:46 PM	#160
krea.tion Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: BRZ/FRS soon? Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 14 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is gonna be pretty interesting to see the results. It could go so many different ways. My predictions: 1. 911 Carrera S 2. C63 AMG BS 3. Subaru BRZ 4. Nissan GT-R 5. Lambo Aventador 6. Shelby GT500 7. McLaren MP4-12C 8. Chevy Camaro ZL1 9. Jaguar XKRS __________________ 2012 GT-R (AMS DP, AAM catted midpipe, GotBoost 3" intakes, Cobb AP tuned by Ben@GTC, GFB Respons BOVs) 2009 Yamaha R6 (Graves full race exhaust, PowerCommanderV, carbon body treatment) 2007 Lexus IS250 AWD (bone ass stock)

08-22-2012, 07:04 PM	#164
07stealth350z Nissan Fan Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Sector 9 Longboard Location: So Cal Posts: 110 Thanks: 8 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My predictions 1. 911 Carrera S or Subaru BRZ 2. C63 AMG BS 3. Subaru BRZ or 911 Carrera S 4. Camaro ZL1 5. Nissan GT-R 6. McLaren MP4-12C 7. Lamborghini Aventador 8. Shelby GT500 or Jaguar XKR-S 9. Jaguar XKR-S or Shelby GT500 __________________ 2007 Nissan 350Z Enthusiast (Carbon Silver) SOLD 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (Jet Black) 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (World Rally Blue) VON received/Pending Arrival

08-22-2012, 08:25 PM	#165
Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My guess: 1. 911 Carrera S 2. Chevy Camaro ZL1 3. Nissan GT-R 4. Shelby GT500 5. Subaru BRZ 6. C63 AMG BS 7. McLaren MP4-12C 8. Lambo Aventador 9. Jaguar XKRS Based on what I perceived as his level of enjoyment of each one and as "track car". __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense! Last edited by Rampage; 08-22-2012 at 09:37 PM.

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08-22-2012, 12:31 PM	#155
SpeedR First86 / boat thief Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: MKIV Supra Location: OKC Posts: 306 Thanks: 147 Thanked 119 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	nonono

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Chad Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Whiteout Location: Canada Posts: 258 Thanks: 266 Thanked 55 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Kinda weird how he mentioned the BRZ has better handling and less prone to under-steer than the FR-S? Seems like all the reviews I've read say the opposite.. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

08-22-2012, 08:29 PM	#166
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08-22-2012, 08:56 PM	#167
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