What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?

[SupraLove]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I stopped reading here... Sunroof = dead weight and is counter productive to the entire focus of this car by raising the center of gravity.

To be honest, I don't really care much either, although SOME may see it as a disadvantage, which is why I put it there.

[mrwiggles]

Originally Posted by SupraLove

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to call

The same effect (in fact it would be multiplied) would be there if your car was a Toyota. And the reason for that is that Toyota hasn't made a sports car in a long time, so everyone associates Toyota = economy, reliability, efficiency and boredom and Priuses or Priii or whatever the plural form of that word is.

Trust me, I know. I drive one, for Christ's sake. Every time I tell someone I drive a Toyota, they say something along the lines of, "Oh, you should have gotten something more fun, Toyotas are granny cars."

Not sure exactly what you're calling BS on. Scion cars certainly do have a brand stigma attached to them, and I'm sure a lot of people would attest to that fact.

When someone calls your car a "granny car", it's because you're driving a Camry. Camries are nice cars, and are certainly not "granny cars", but people see a 4 door sedan, and that's what they go to.

If you were driving a MR2, those comments would be basically nonexistent.

[SupraLove]

Originally Posted by mrwiggles

Not sure exactly what you're calling BS on. Scion cars certainly do have a brand stigma attached to them, and I'm sure a lot of people would attest to that fact.

When someone calls your car a "granny car", it's because you're driving a Camry. Camries are nice cars, and are certainly not "granny cars", but people see a 4 door sedan, and that's what they go to.

If you were driving a MR2, those comments would be basically nonexistent.

I thought we had settled this... lol.

What I had meant was I'd rather have a stigma of boring cars (Toyota parent brand) than a stigma of ricers (Scion). I'm not saying that all Scion owners are ricers, but it gives FR-S owners a bad name. Then HunterGreene said it shouldn't matter what brand name the FR-S has, it's a great car and we should be happy that it's on the market. And I completely agree with him.

Case closed. :happy0180:

[Propaganda]

I don't understand how people are complaining about a lack of leg room or rough shifts (due to driver)... I fit fine and im 5'8". Lol... maybe that has something to do with it?

But like everyone else has said, covered storage/center console, and cup holder placement.

I dont care that there's no steering wheel controls, the radio isn't really that far away. Once you know where everything on the radio is, navigation is easy.

[MY13FRS]

The only thing I dislike about this car is the shifter vinyl boot (and the handbrake boot as well). Holy, they are like paper thin and cheap feeling.

Everything else feels about right for the price point.

[mrwiggles]

Originally Posted by SupraLove

I thought we had settled this... lol.

What I had meant was I'd rather have a stigma of boring cars (Toyota parent brand) than a stigma of ricers (Scion). I'm not saying that all Scion owners are ricers, but it gives FR-S owners a bad name. Then HunterGreene said it shouldn't matter what brand name the FR-S has, it's a great car and we should be happy that it's on the market. And I completely agree with him.

Case closed. :happy0180:

That makes more sense. I didn't exactly understand what you meant from your first post. Case definitely closed

:happy0180:

[Erroneous]

The more I drive it, the more the torque dip bothers me. Nothing major, but that's become the #1 issue.

[milanojess]

Mine's FRS.

I am with the clutch and torque dip. I thought it was me doing the bad shifting but jumping into a few other cars and I had no issue. I think that had to do with overly light clutch pedal and there's no mechanical feel of clutch engagement, compounded with torque dip.

The AC system can use some automation ie thermostat based. That shouldn't add much cost and weight.

i wish they make that CF looking thing.. to look like plastic, or CF, but not in the middle

As ugly as the stereo unit came with FRS, i am amazed with its features, bluetooth music streaming, hd radio and all, iphone ready, etc. great seats. I don't expect good audio from most cars anyways, much less from a relatively budget car so this is already on the plus side.

oh and headlight doesn't go with ignition i think...

no car is perfect, i am fairly happy with it.

[jm1681]

Originally Posted by azian_advanced

...I'm sure you're all happy with your new car purchases but there's got to be some things you absolutely HATE on it...

I'm only ten miles into ownership, but I realize only now, just how much I LOVED the floor-hinged throttle in my Golf >.<

It'll take a little getting used to, but so far, that's it

[bucket]

Barely had the car more than 24 hours now, but here's the first things that jumped out:
- Accelerator lag...really breaks up my timing for rev-matching
- Dainty little girl clutch that gives as much feedback as a broken toilet flapper valve
- Heavy flywheel? This could be more of an effect from the pedal lag
- No steering wheel audio controls. Not taking hands off the wheel or eyes of the road to change tracks, volume, etc is great. Why would subaru not have this?

An armrest would be nice, the shifter is a bit too far forward for my tastes, and some lumbar adjustment in the seats would be appreciated, but I wouldn't call any of these hates.

[AshWilliams]

-tiny, unerpowered engine with a huge, flat plateau on the power curve
-stock brakes heat up FAST on the track
-tight fit for anyone over 6' tall
-typical JDM uncommunicative clutch, it's either on or off--engages somewhere in the middle of its mushy travel
-cheap, cheap, cheap interior makes my GMC pickup look classy
-no locking interior storage

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by bucket

Barely had the car more than 24 hours now, but here's the first things that jumped out:
- Accelerator lag...really breaks up my timing for rev-matching
- Dainty little girl clutch that gives as much feedback as a broken toilet flapper valve
- Heavy flywheel? This could be more of an effect from the pedal lag
- No steering wheel audio controls. Not taking hands off the wheel or eyes of the road to change tracks, volume, etc is great. Why would subaru not have this?

An armrest would be nice, the shifter is a bit too far forward for my tastes, and some lumbar adjustment in the seats would be appreciated, but I wouldn't call any of these hates.

Most of these problems you won't notice after a couple weeks driving the car. Thats the amazing part of being human--we adapt!

[ZC6BRZ]

Rear seatback top. Looks like an afterthought.

http://qkme.me/3qi24o

[bucket]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

Most of these problems you won't notice after a couple weeks driving the car. Thats the amazing part of being human--we adapt!

I still have my 240 with mechanical throttle, light flywheel, and a manly clutch to remind me. Switching between the two cars is quite awkward, and driving the BRZ reminds me that I really need to work on the 240's suspension.