Im confused... Scion FR-S in US. But what will Toyota/Subaru name be?

[ichitaka05]

LOL touche

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

You are about the only one to think this.

I also think the concept 2 is better. It's more like a proper sport car minus the fender vents. FR-S looks fast, but drives slow. the Body kit on FR-S show car is the only kit from 5-axis that I dislike. I prefer the front bumper from either concept 1 or 2(without LED).

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by old greg

there will be a Subaru equivalent which may or may not be sold in the States.

Why wouldn't Subaru sell their car in the States?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Why wouldn't Subaru sell their car in the States?

To avoid competing with Toyota/Scion? It's still very possible.

I think it's very possible also that the Toyota will get the FR-S name or something similar. Think MR-2 or MR-S, both were Toyota.

That would make the US version basically a Toyota that is badged as a Scion for marketing purposes in the US. Maybe I'm just being hopeful for a change .

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

To avoid competing with Toyota/Scion? It's still very possible.

Sorry that is a lame excuse. So Subaru wouldn't want to recoup their R&D costs by selling in one of the largest auto car markets in the world? Naaa I don't buy it. Subaru caters to a different crowd just like G37 vs 370z.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Sorry that is a lame excuse. So Subaru wouldn't want to recoup their R&D costs by selling in one of the largest auto car markets in the world? Naaa I don't buy it. Subaru caters to a different crowd just like G37 vs 370z.

If you're going to argue everything I say now at least think about it first. Who's R&D money is it? Toyota or Subaru? Who has more money in the R&D?

It was a joint project from the beginning but that doesn't mean they both shared equally on the inputs of money, parts, or technical skills.

Plus even if Toyota gets the Japanese market and Scion gets the North American market for their version. That would leave the European market open. Subaru is pretty popular in Europe, from what I've heard. I still think they'll go with that arrangement rather than risk competing.

[Spencer Strayer]

NICE! this car is perfect <3

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

If you're going to argue everything I say now at least think about it first. Who's R&D money is it? Toyota or Subaru? Who has more money in the R&D?

It was a joint project from the beginning but that doesn't mean they both shared equally on the inputs of money, parts, or technical skills.

Plus even if Toyota gets the Japanese market and Scion gets the North American market for their version. That would leave the European market open. Subaru is pretty popular in Europe, from what I've heard. I still think they'll go with that arrangement rather than risk competing.

I have no idea what the finances are behind the scene. But working on the engine and transmission seems like a lot of work to me. You also think they had no input on the suspension? Each does their own interior and exterior styling. But I don't think Subaru is getting a free ride on this.

[Franisco]

Hammerhead Eagle Thrust

[ichitaka05]

Now now Allch & Tranz.

Again, we're just speculating. I can't remember Subie official saying they gonna release their ver in US or not (correct me if I'm wrong).

BUT in my view, I don't think it doesn't hurt to bring Subie ver in US. Again, there are some ANTI-SCION ppl that want this car. If Subie ver do come to US, there's a sell there for ppl that want Subie over Toyota/SCION. If they didn't those ppl will buy Z, G37, Gen, Mx5, & other cars and Toyota & Subie will loose $. Even someone buy Subie over SCION, Toyota still makes a $, same goes w Subie. It would be wise to bring both ver, in my view.

[Dimman]

FR-S is dull and inoffensive enough to fit with Toyota internationally. Plus it's historically connected with the MR-S.

[old greg]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Why wouldn't Subaru sell their car in the States?

I'm not saying they won't, but as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed either way. So maybe they will, maybe they won't, all we can do is guess.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Dark

I also think the concept 2 is better. It's more like a proper sport car minus the fender vents. FR-S looks fast, but drives slow. the Body kit on FR-S show car is the only kit from 5-axis that I dislike. I prefer the front bumper from either concept 1 or 2(without LED).

The FR-S concept was built by 5 axis. Nowhere did it say it was kitted or deigned by them. The FT-86 II looks like crap compared to either of the other 2 concepts. It's overall shape is ok (except the rear) but there are too many detials that put me off. In fact, I cannot see how you dislike the front bumper on the FR-S when it is pretty much the design of the MkI concept with more aggressive cues from the Mk2.

I'll hit the fan if some goon at Toyota decides that this car needs a different design in every region. Jesus, that would just about make my head explode after seeing the FR-S.

Originally Posted by Dimman

FR-S is dull and inoffensive enough to fit with Toyota internationally. Plus it's historically connected with the MR-S.

Truth. That being said, I would have really loved if this car had an actual name

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by old greg

I'm not saying they won't, but as far as I know it hasn't been confirmed either way. So maybe they will, maybe they won't, all we can do is guess.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/01/g...ter-non-turbo/

I wasn't at the Geneva show but according to autoblog Subaru confirmed there that they will be bringing a Subaru version to the U.S.

"... that's what Subaru is now trying to convince the masses with its new rear-wheel-drive Boxer Sports Car Architecture. It's worth noting that the automaker has confirmed for the first time here at the 2011 Geneva Motor Show that the upcoming production version of this sports car is coming to America. If all goes to plan, production will commence in the spring of 2012 at a Subaru production plant in Japan.
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