How mad would you be?

[tnt]

could careless for the badging ... just love the car !

[track_warrior]

I dont hate scion they make awesome cars, i normally just dislike some of the people that drive them.

[naticedog04]

I own an Acura RSX type S with Honda badges on it... I wanted it to look how it should have looked... Anyways, i can understand why people are a little "bent" about the scion badges... Pretty soon it'll be inexpensive to swap the badges if peeps are still upset...

[MVJ1975]

I don't get the whole Scion = douchebags thing. Most of the xA/xD/xB's I see around are being used as commuters or runabouts by 30-somethings. The tCs are overwhelmingly driven by young women. I suppose this area might be different, but I see a lot more douchebags in Foxbodies.

There's a totally slammed, modified tC that parks next to me in my apartment complex a lot, I figured that might be owned by a ricer dude, but no, I saw the driver yesterday and it's a cute little Hispanic gal.

[Pbrown]

Originally Posted by denverizzles

considering that most everyone is upset that the FR-S came to the U.S. as a Scion and not a Toyota; and most everyone is going to swap out their Scion emblems for Toyota. How mad would you be if Toyota realizes their error and decides to bring next years model as a toyota 86?

I dunno about you and i understand it's still going to be the same car, but i'd be pretty damn pissed.

I am not getting this. A car company releases a vehicle that has caught the imigination of many enthusiasts. Has had not one single bad review from the so called experts. It is probably one of the sexiest cars on the road. We receive as many looks from onlookers as most exotics do. The car is awesome to drive. They could call it a Lada or Skoda for all I care, The fact that it is a Scion is great because anyone with half a brain realizes where the engineering came from. Changing emblems is in my humble opinion a compete waste of time and effort. Be proud of the vehicle you chose to drive and many others wish they could.

[pr086]

Originally Posted by ruskymx

Take this for what it's worth, but my dealerships GM and owner were at a dealer meeting in FL I believe sometime around March or April. It was discussed at the meeting about bringing the Toyota version to the US in 2015 depending on the success of the FR-S.

I, for one, would think it would be a good move. How many people on here want different options that you can't get on the FR-S, but are available on the 86? I think there are a lot. This is part of the reason why I leased mine and didn't finance it. My lease will be up in June of 2015 and I am keeping all the original parts for my car as I do mods. I will be able to swap the parts or if I can't, I'll sell them. I may even buy my lease out. Who knows? I have 3 years to figure it out.

Look at it this way, if you want the cheapest model, you get the Scion. If you want HIDs, leather, etc, you get the Toyota version. People like choices. The Toyota version would be the little brother to whatever Toyota & BMW have brewing, which is highly rumored to be some type of Supra replacement.

Next time our Toyota dealer rep is in I'll see if I can pry some info from him.

Ruskymx

very interesting

[Flat Black VW]

Originally Posted by sho220

But it's manufactured by Subaru...so I would think, if anything, a switch to Subaru badges would be the most appropriate. But then again, a Subaru wasn't the star of that anime show...

If by "that anime show" you are talking bout initial D, then you are correct, Subaru was not the "Star", however a Subaru 22b did essentially replace the Trueno that Takami drove in their family's driveway......

Subie love!!!!!

[Justin.b]

I wouldn't care if they had sold this car with a Prius badge on it ans wouldn't be upset in any way if they brought it here as a Toyota next year (Psst, they won't. It was not an 'error.' They planned to bring it to the US as a Scion.)

-Justin

[kendalldwhite]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

If Toyota did that, the Scion models would become instant collector items just like for example misprinted money. I'm all for it.

more money for us hahaha!!!

[ST185RC]

If it's a car worth buying i don't care what kind of brand it is.

A few years ago, Hyundai was making shit cars before the Genesis, now it's being hailed as a major competitor against G37, 370z, mustangs etc. Now everyone is going apeshit on how good Hyundai is and how far they've come in terms of luxury and styling. Isn't that a surprise from the Hyundai Accents and Tibbies. Some even called Hyundai the Toyota killers. O Rly?? Like Really Rly?

Give it a few years, brand adoption takes some time and those who are making a fuss about the brand just want attention. Weeaboos that want their Toyota 86, wait a decade or so and import them, until then, you either drive a scion or a subaru for the North American Market no matter how JDM'd up your car is it's not fooling anyone.

Here's a grand idea, get an R8 and rebrand it a Lambo from Audi because the engine was pulled from a lambo. Who's gonna do it? Oh the ones that care so much that Lambo is more exotic. Right.

[oso_25]

I would be happy cause maybe those headlights would be cheaper and I would install them on my Frs

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by ruskymx

Take this for what it's worth, but my dealerships GM and owner were at a dealer meeting in FL I believe sometime around March or April. It was discussed at the meeting about bringing the Toyota version to the US in 2015 depending on the success of the FR-S.

I, for one, would think it would be a good move. How many people on here want different options that you can't get on the FR-S, but are available on the 86? I think there are a lot. This is part of the reason why I leased mine and didn't finance it. My lease will be up in June of 2015 and I am keeping all the original parts for my car as I do mods. I will be able to swap the parts or if I can't, I'll sell them. I may even buy my lease out. Who knows? I have 3 years to figure it out.

Look at it this way, if you want the cheapest model, you get the Scion. If you want HIDs, leather, etc, you get the Toyota version. People like choices. The Toyota version would be the little brother to whatever Toyota & BMW have brewing, which is highly rumored to be some type of Supra replacement.

Next time our Toyota dealer rep is in I'll see if I can pry some info from him.

Ruskymx

Please do, I really, really, want to see the Toyota version with all the options from the Toyota GT 86 Limited. It's the main reason I made the conversion list in my sig.

I've been very, very disappointed at the fact the car was released in a reduced form through Scion. I have nothing against the people who like Scion, but as a long standing Toyota fan I look at Scion and how they do things and I just don't like it.

Toyota, to me, has always been about quality and being fun to drive. I sit in a Scion and I see a Toyota with it's quality stripped away... therefore no longer a Toyota. In my eyes.

I've compared the Scion FR-S to my 2003 Toyota Celica GT-S TRD, a 10 year old car, and my Celica had better options and doesn't look as cheap as the FR-S does. Yes they both have plastic interiors for the knobs and controls, but the Celica at least had some style to them instead of big, blocky, generic parts bin, looks to them. The Toyota has the fantastic looking toggle switches and digital controls. The Celica had optional leather seats, colour keyed interior (heard this was Canada only, but it exists and I have it), optional HIDs, fog lights, illuminated entry, and even though it was a lift-back I'm sure it would have had a trunk liner if it did have a trunk. They both make 100 hp/L, they're both light weight (the Celica was ~200lbs. lighter), have similar power to weight ratios, and both handle well. I simply expected more of a Toyota vehicle 10 years later. Scion makes me think they've taken a step backwards, but when I researched the Toyota GT 86 Limited in Japan, that was a car that met my expectations.

The 86 name being stripped from the car and changing to Scion felt, to me, as if the legacy the car came from and heralded had been taken away. Yes they kept one 86 badge, but they removed all others. Honestly feels like a slap to the face of the legacy it came from. Not to mention Akio Toyoda-san, president and CEO of TMC, gave his word that a Toyota sports car would be built and sold, after seven years of not having one. He even apologized for the lost dreams of a generation. After making a statement like that, then not following through... it's heart breaking to me that it wasn't released here (in North America, Canada and U.S.A.) as a Toyota and I won't buy the Scion or Subaru versions, only the Toyota.

Originally Posted by denverizzles

considering that most everyone is upset that the FR-S came to the U.S. as a Scion and not a Toyota; and most everyone is going to swap out their Scion emblems for Toyota. How mad would you be if Toyota realizes their error and decides to bring next years model as a toyota 86?

I dunno about you and i understand it's still going to be the same car, but i'd be pretty damn pissed.

I would be simply ecstatic and first in line to buy the Toyota version.

[Skyhound]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

If Toyota did that, the Scion models would become instant collector items just like for example misprinted money. I'm all for it.

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[rice_classic]

Will the Toyota badge make it faster? Will it make it quieter or louder? Will the Toyota badge lower the lap time, increase the fuel mileage or give you more trunk space? Will the Toyota badge make your manhood larger, make you more appealing to women or increase your salary?

The answer is no.

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

At the end of the day, it's the same damn car; Scion, Toyota or Subaru.

rice_classic does not care, he bought the car not the company nor the name.