has this happened to anybody else

[TuxedoCartman]

Originally Posted by jarviz

When I first got the car, I had tons of other cars trying to race me. They would ride my bumper real close or rev their engines next to me at a stop light then peel out, or match my exact speed for a while on straightaways. But I noticed this hasn't happened anymore since I rebadged my car.

My back emblem is the 86 piston sign instead, so I was thinking maybe they have no idea what kind of car it is and rather not get embarrassed, while before they were confident enough to race a scion. any thoughts?

Actually, I've noticed similar behavior from other motorists. I was getting a helluva lot of attention (both good and bad) when I got the car, but as soon as I changed the badges over to Toyota ones? Dried right up. I'll still get the cautious person approaching me, asking me what it is. When I tell them it's a Scion FR-S, they are usually like, "Oh, I thought so, but your badges threw me. Didn't know what that was."

So I can see the same happening with your 86-piston badges. Jackasses who try to initiate street races aren't the brightest eggs in a six-pack, so it doesn't take much to confuse them. And yeah, I can see them hesitating to try and pick a race with something they don't recognize.

[Skyhound]

This car was so hyped up that it's to be expected, the street tuner scene is incredibly campy and the 86 is a new thug that's entered the turf war. With all of the rave reviews it's gotten, a lot of people must feel like they have something to prove.

Car enthusiasts from other camps don't buy into the whole "sports car" image toyobaru was trying to go for and see the 86 as a Ricer car. Tbh they wouldn't be wrong, I don't drive this car like it's a Ferrari or try to pretend it's anywhere near that level. At best I'd say this on the prestige level of a S2K or 350/370Z which are both Ricer cars. Yet when the car is debadged/rebadged or you're just speaking with a person who is uneducated with cars; this car can LOOK like a Ferrari or Maserati before realizing it's something else.

Badging messes with how you may perceive a car. I remember when I first saw the Hyundai Genesis Coupe with those alternate badges they offer (The winged bronze ones) that replace the Hyundai badges, I was stumped on what they car was. At first I thought it was a Corvette, then I thought maybe it was some new sports or even super car I've never seen or heard of before. I literally spent half an hour looking at the damned thing trying to figure out it was. This was when that car FIRST came out, probably where the FR-S is now. Now I see the same car and feel silly over being so smitten by it.

Give it a bit and everyone will start looking at you in the same light as a Genesis owner and the challenges will stop. xD

[jarviz]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I've only had one guy try to race me, and that was leaving a meet.

No matter how you badge it, it's still a scion.

In that case I just tell everybody it's the new lexus.

[Trojan_SC]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

You could, but I don't recall there ever being a "toyobaru" brand. That is just the nickname given to the vehicle by us, much like the saabaru.

I also see Denso stamped on the car in several places. Does that make the car a Denso?

Does the fact that Camarys in north america are made in a Subaru plant make them subaru Camarys?

A brand is given to a vehicle by its creator. You can do whatever you would like with that car once you purchase it, but you will never make it something it isn't.

Well my car is a Toyota. Says so on my registration and insurance paperwork lol. Mine doesn't say Scion anywhere, not on paperwork, badges, nada. So hmm says a lot about that. When that changes, maybe I'll say I have a Scion...NOT!

[Trojan_SC]

Originally Posted by jarviz

In that case I just tell everybody it's the new lexus.

Lol I wouldn't doubt people would believe that with the aggressive styling of it. Lately the only sexy cars to come out of Toyota have been Lexus.

[Hix]

I used to get it a lot but apparently there is a caged out FR-S that is dominating people. Now it is just mexiricers and that is pretty rare now

[Shagaliscious]

Never had anyone try to race me yet. Although in my Civic Si everyone tried to race me, and I just got good at ignoring those people...maybe I just don't notice them.

Anyone who thinks their FR-S isn't a Scion is lying to themselves...but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[jarviz]

Originally Posted by 86'd

I think it's a coincidence.

I don't think people are pulling up next to your "86" and saying...

"Oh no meng! Don't race that fool, he got a terbo in dat 86! U gon looose!"

That's not what I meant. I think people were racing me previously because they see it's a sports car and see a scion logo, and everybody knows scion is weak... right?

but once i changed the emblem to the 86, 95% of the those guys don't know what kind of car it is until the they see the toyota badge in the front, even then they'll think it's a new supra or something.... but from the back/side and on the highway, it's hard to tell what kind of car we're diving so they don't wanna race the maserati or ferrari looking car and get wrecked.... that's just my theory. either way....

[neutral]

Yesterday a guy driving a mint Ferrari 348 TS said "nice car" to me during rush hour. I almost felt bad because I wasn't sure if he knew that it wasn't an exotic or something. I guess it shouldn't matter. I was staring at his car just as much as he was staring at mine! lol

Anyway, back on topic, some asshat in a Mustang GT tried to get me to race him yesterday on a 45MPH road. I completely ignored him, he raced himself, and it felt great.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I've only had one guy try to race me, and that was leaving a meet.

No matter how you badge it, it's still a Subaru.

Fixed it for you...

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

Fixed it for you...

No, the brz is a subaru, the frs is scion. I understand the concept is difficult to comprehend, but there's a reason Toyota gets 3 of every 4 vehicles manufactured.

[tnt]

haven't happened to me yet like when I had my camaro

[pinoyplaya]

After I left the GYM, some random car matched my speed next to me wanting to race.

I'm like... okay

Put my three fingers up (thumbs and pinky down) to count 321. Pulled down my ring finger a second later, then the pointy finger the next second and left with him with the middle finger.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I also see Denso stamped on the car in several places. Does that make the car a Denso?

Not the same comparison.

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Does the fact that Camarys in north america are made in a Subaru plant make them subaru Camarys?

Really? I did not know that. But again, not a fair comparison. Subaru may "assemble" the Camry but they had nothing to do with it from the development or engineering side. Or did they?

In the case of the twins, Subaru entirely engineered it except for the key fob, the direct injection, and the sheet metal you look at when one drives by. Everything else is Subaru developed, Subaru designed, and Subaru assembled. That makes the car Subaru from start to finish.

Someone tried to correct that comment a while back by saying Toyota was there throughout the entire development cycle...which in my eyes means nothing more than them shaking or nodding their head from each attempt Subaru made with the part in question.

Come on Hawaiian, even you know the examples you provided aren't comparable to what we are sematicizing about.