I just saw a $39,000 FR-S...

[Habe46]

Thats still 4 or 5k short of the mrsp for the GT86 in Sweden
I would love to move to the US!

[just86]

what a rip off, 5axis doesnt even look good, not their kit,spoiler, rims etc... they all look ricey

[moniz]

Originally Posted by Habe46

Thats still 4 or 5k short of the mrsp for the GT86 in Sweden
I would love to move to the US!

Still pretty sure your national average income is also higher too, relative to that, so it's all a wash.

[sbxjap]

For all that, they better have changed the emblems to Toyota as well...

[rikdrt1]

the ONLY way i wowuld pay 39000, is if they really gave me an 'imported/genuine' GT86 with all those options (BodyKit, Wheels, Etc) that are actually usefull and wanted in the american Scion === that might be worth it .. but a 27k scion that everyone has with a bunch of useless stuff. ??? naahhh !

[santorkyle]

Id be pissed going from 24k to 42k after TTL....I don't know if that jar would be big enough, you would need some astro glide for that one...

[eriktherod]

Originally Posted by rikdrt1

the ONLY way i wowuld pay 39000, is if they really gave me an 'imported/genuine' GT86 with all those options (BodyKit, Wheels, Etc) that are actually usefull and wanted in the american Scion === that might be worth it .. but a 27k scion that everyone has with a bunch of useless stuff. ??? naahhh !

Reminds me of the overpriced Mugen Si's.. heh.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by sho220

Whatcha got? I'm still rockin' a 7 year old Motorola RAZR flip phone...all the kids are envious...

I do have a Blackberry for work...it makes a fine paperweight...

1 year old Samsmug(yes, they actually currently make camera-less phones). It's the kind you get for free when you re-sign for a year or two...it's all I need since everyone around me has a smart phone I can use if needed.

Originally Posted by moniz

Still pretty sure your national average income is also higher too, relative to that, so it's all a wash.

Yes and no. They also get taxed to hell and back to pay for FREE healthcare. The main reason has to do with trade agreements. The US has a greater ability to make these deals happen as well as the fact that most of the manufacturers have factories here regardless of whether the car is actually built here or not.

If Sweden had Toyota and Honda factories, they might also get good deals. I believe we pay less for the twins than the Japanese do for example. That should put most of the "blame" on trade agreements or tariffs or a lack thereof.

[moniz]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

1 year old Samsmug(yes, they actually currently make camera-less phones). It's the kind you get for free when you re-sign for a year or two...it's all I need since everyone around me has a smart phone I can use if needed.




Yes and no. They also get taxed to hell and back to pay for FREE healthcare. The main reason has to do with trade agreements. The US has a greater ability to make these deals happen as well as the fact that most of the manufacturers have factories here regardless of whether the car is actually built here or not.

If Sweden had Toyota and Honda factories, they might also get good deals. I believe we pay less for the twins than the Japanese do for example. That should put most of the "blame" on trade agreements or tariffs or a lack thereof.

We here in Canada also are quite aware there is no such thing as FREE healthcare. It all comes out of our taxes. It's the overall efficiency of the system that makes it a better way. Better, but far from perfect I will readily admit. They also in Sweden have free tax payer supported post secondary education which is another major financial burden lifted from people. Again, pretty sure even with their tax structure, it's still a wash, since higher educated, healthier population, earn more, pay more in tax, and round and round it goes.

Don't even get me started on their crazy fast Internet speed provided to them cheaper than we pay(relatively speaking)! And the women....!!!

If it were that bad, their would be a huge clamouring of Swedes looking to emigrate out of there. As sweet as the 86 is, it's not THAT great to give all that up for!. If you can deal with the winters, Sweden is a pretty sweet place to live.

[CozmoNz]

That's what we have to pay here in Australia.... mines $44,000 with onroads... and the Aussie $ isnt far off the US$. ($1US = $0.94 AU). So ours is actually worth more than yours.....


The only upside is we make more on average lol.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by moniz

We here in Canada also are quite aware there is no such thing as FREE healthcare. It all comes out of our taxes. It's the overall efficiency of the system that makes it a better way. Better, but far from perfect I will readily admit. They also in Sweden have free tax payer supported post secondary education which is another major financial burden lifted from people. Again, pretty sure even with their tax structure, it's still a wash, since higher educated, healthier population, earn more, pay more in tax, and round and round it goes.

Don't even get me started on their crazy fast Internet speed provided to them cheaper than we pay(relatively speaking)! And the women....!!!

If it were that bad, their would be a huge clamouring of Swedes looking to emigrate out of there. As sweet as the 86 is, it's not THAT great to give all that up for!. If you can deal with the winters, Sweden is a pretty sweet place to live.

All true. But you also have to consider that the entire population of many of these countries is similar to that of a large US city, or state. Imagine the US with 1960's population numbers...we'd be a hell of alot better off.