Found low mileage 2020 Toyota 86 Hakone Edition

[RickyBobby]

The link is dead so I'm assuming it was purchased. Mods please delete this thread.
Not sure if this is the right section to post this. I have been looking locally, TN, for a 2020 Hakone and came across this one for sale at a Honda dealership in a suburb of Denver, CO.
It had 4 owners but has a clean Carfax. As of today the website says it's still available. From the website: Pre-Owned vehicle pricing includes all offers, incentives and Dealer Handling Fees. Honda does not charge a dealer handling fee. [/B]Tax, Title and Tags not included in vehicle prices shown and must be paid by the purchaser.
The dealership is located ~42 miles southwest of Denver International Airport. For a second or two I was thinking about flying out from Knoxville to Denver, $58.one way on AllegiantAir and driving it back.

[Muskoka800]

Looks pretty but four owners is scary.

[RickyBobby]

From the Carfax it looks like it's counting the Honda dealership as the 4th owner.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Muskoka800

Looks pretty but four owners is scary.

Why? A car could have many great owners, or one shitty owner. Inspect the car.

[Dadhawk]

19% off original MSPR for a 5 model year old car? KBB says the car is about $19K. So, I guess it depends if you want to pay a premium or not.

[RickyBobby]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

19% off original MSPR for a 5 model year old car? KBB says the car is about $19K. So, I guess it depends if you want to pay a premium or not.

How are you getting a KBB dealer price of $19K?? Trade-In value??

Dealer Price based on Good Condition or Better
Has some repairable cosmetic defects and is free of major mechanical problems. Of course not known until you inspect the vehicle.
https://www.kbb.com/toyota/86/2020/h...hicleid=446047

And there's the dealer doc fee to consider which this dealership is not charging. It is now an average of $800. in TN on all cars and higher in Georgia.

Do a nationwide search on any of the used car websites for a Hakone. Anything close to $20K with higher mileage will have a salvage title. No way would I pay this much, but someone will: https://www.carmax.com/car/26940476

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by RickyBobby

How are you getting a KBB dealer price of $19K?? Trade-In value??

Looks like i had something wrong when I looked it up. KBB retail sales value is between $21K and $24K in good condition. It's only slightly higher for Excellent condition but personally I don't think any car with 3 or 4 owners in 4 years is going to be in Excellent condition.

I guess it just depends if you are willing to pay the price, regardless.

[Muskoka800]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Why? A car could have many great owners, or one shitty owner. Inspect the car.

My point is that a car which changes hands every year could be a problem child. Why would multiple owners dispose of this car so quickly? Being a special edition should give it a collectibility factor. But perhaps it’s just been a rich-boys toy all its life, but not likely.
Also, I wonder, does the “clean” Carfax show regular maintenance or nothing at all?
With the exception of tire shops my FRS hasn’t seen a mechanic since I took ownership. From purchase at two years old all maintenance and repairs have been done by me at home. Mostly over the winter while it sleeps in our heated garage/shop.
My Carfax should be spotless since I took ownership because I’m handy. Most owners don’t have my tools, facility and self-taught skills. Call it my hobby.

People who love their car take care of it. People who regret buying a car don’t maintain it. They dump it.

Sorry for the ramble.

[RickyBobby]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

A car could have many great owners, or one shitty owner. Inspect the car.

You are making assumptions that 3 not 4 previous owners, read the Carfax carefully, is really, really bad for a 4-5 year old car. I agree with Sapphireho. The only way we wil know if this is true is to INSPECT THE CAR.