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Old 08-11-2023, 04:53 PM   #29
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About AWD cars? I'm talking about EVOs and STIs for example. They don't have special "drift buttons" and can go sideways on throttle without issues.
Evos and STIs have a hard tendency to plow on throttle. You can chuck them into a corner sideways, but they won't be power-overing without some specific work.

"drift modes" specifically are programmed to promote rotation to mitigate that on-throttle plow.
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Evos and STIs have a hard tendency to plow on throttle. You can chuck them into a corner sideways, but they won't be power-overing without some specific work.

"drift modes" specifically are programmed to promote rotation to mitigate that on-throttle plow.


This one is a very rare Evo VI TME RS, which doesn't have ACD, let alone AYC, yet it goes sideways on throttle:
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This one is a very rare Evo VI TME RS, which doesn't have ACD, let alone AYC, yet it goes sideways on throttle:
One car is not even close to stock. Both are initiating with trailing or feinting. Neither are examples of power-over.
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One car is not even close to stock. Both are initiating with trailing or feinting. Neither are examples of power-over.
Even RWD cars understeer sometimes if you just power over.

I saw videos with Focus RS and GR Yaris attemp "drifting" and they show way more understeer than Evos.

Btw, that white Evo had just catless turboback and a tune, and EVO9 head, if I remember correctly. Suspension was stock. Nothing special, sub 400hp at the crank.
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Even RWD cars understeer sometimes if you just power over.

I saw videos with Focus RS and GR Yaris attemp "drifting" and they show way more understeer than Evos.

Btw, that white Evo had just catless turboback and a tune, and EVO9 head, if I remember correctly. Suspension was stock. Nothing special, sub 400hp at the crank.
Again, both of these cars are initiating slides with weight transfer, not a power-over.

These modern AWD cars with drift modes can initiate with just a power-over.
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These modern AWD cars with drift modes can initiate with just a power-over.
I tried to find a good example video with GR Yaris where it initiates with just throttle, but couldn't find one.
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I tried to find a good example video with GR Yaris where it initiates with just throttle, but couldn't find one.
That's because it doesn't have a drift mode, unlike some other AWD vehicles.
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Heck, back in the day, we used to do that all the time, with less than 85 HP.

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2 vs 4 wheels.

Now if we're talking quad motor EV....

sure, but you don't have to worry about high sides in a car.
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That's because it doesn't have a drift mode, unlike some other AWD vehicles.
Ah, confused it with "sport mode" (30:70).

So that leaves A45 AMG and Golf R Mk8 then.

Well, in that case, if I ever wanted a modern AWD car, I'd pick M240i xdrive or 340 one. They're even more fun and don't need a specific mode to enjoy them.
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Ah, confused it with "sport mode" (30:70).

So that leaves A45 AMG and Golf R Mk8 then.

Well, in that case, if I ever wanted a modern AWD car, I'd pick M240i xdrive or 340 one. They're even more fun and don't need a specific mode to enjoy them.
What makes them "more fun"? x-drive is utilitarian focused and is a 40/60, that uses subtractive vectoring. Perhaps the system you wish it had is that of say, an AWD 911, where the car defaults to 100% rear, and pushes power forward on a demand basis.

Have you even driven any of these vehicles we're discussing, and slid them around to explore their balance and AWD system dynamics?
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