U.S. corn-based ethanol worse for the climate than gasoline, study finds

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by cjd

No. It assumes it's not made using surplus crop and instead needs to clear all new land... As mentioned, it looks for a way to say what they want to say.

Ah, yeah.... I see the logic there too. Bottom line - we're just too damn inventive for our own good and there are too many of us infecting the planet.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Ah, yeah.... I see the logic there too. Bottom line - we're just too damn inventive for our own good and there are too many of us infecting the planet.

I knew there was a reason I hated my neighbors.

Fuckers.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

I knew there was a reason I hated my neighbors.

Fuckers.

lollollol

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Not news. Takes way more energy to grow and process than just pumping/burning oil.

I didn't read the article. Did I get it right?

I read part of the actual study at work when it came out last year. The 'E' from EH&S in my job title means I have to!
They go into great depth to capture every single little aspect of the farming part right down to how much farmers fart. As said they also assume it was forest before they started to farm not existing land nor that farers use crop rotation to keep the soil up more than just dumping chemicals on like it was 1967 again.
The oil part they just sort of skip a couple of minor things like refining and transporting crud to be refined in the first place.
I gave up on reading the paper about half way through as it was so blatantly skewed. They should have to reveal who sponsors these studies as I bet there was the word "petroleum" in the company name someplace.

[soundman98]

a 24% 'increase' really doesn't sound like all that much annually, especially if they're not factoring in gasoline 'ground-to-pump' costs.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Funny how old capped off oil wells are suddenly full again. Earth makes more. Go figure.

Not at the rate we are using it though...

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Not at the rate we are using it though...

Enough for my life. I'm good.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I read part of the actual study at work when it came out last year. The 'E' from EH&S in my job title means I have to!
They go into great depth to capture every single little aspect of the farming part right down to how much farmers fart. As said they also assume it was forest before they started to farm not existing land nor that farers use crop rotation to keep the soil up more than just dumping chemicals on like it was 1967 again.
The oil part they just sort of skip a couple of minor things like refining and transporting crud to be refined in the first place.
I gave up on reading the paper about half way through as it was so blatantly skewed. They should have to reveal who sponsors these studies as I bet there was the word "petroleum" in the company name someplace.

I bet if you had bothered reading the whole thing it would've balanced out.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Enough for my life. I'm good.

I suppose "The end is coming quicker than you think" might be taken the wrong way here...

[Lantanafrs2]

My car runs better on it. I don't care

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I suppose "The end is coming quicker than you think" might be taken the wrong way here...

That's not for you to decide.

[Clipdat]

This thread makes me want to run E85.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I bet if you had bothered reading the whole thing it would've balanced out.

I read the summary. It was not going to balance out.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I read the summary. It was not going to balance out.

Too subtle? 'Twas the joke. I must be having an off night.