Trouble shifting without rev-matching

[GTwice]

I've read quite a lot about our cars' transmissions and shifting, but my problem seems to be slightly different.

Basically, I'm having trouble shifting gears at speed when not rev-matching. Almost no problems shifting into 1st or any other gear when stopped, but gets progressively more difficult while driving until 5th and 6th.
I had the trans and clutch fluids replaced (no noticeable difference), I am depressing the pedal fully until the bump stop. There is no grinding, and with rev-matching, 2nd, 3rd and 4th click in very smoothly, while 5th and 6th even then need a tiny bit of force.

Any ideas? Is there anything I can check, or straight to the shop for a full clutch kit replacement? 60k miles on the clock, probably on the original clutch.

[Ultramaroon]

How far can you lift your foot before the clutch begins to engage?

[GTwice]

About 1/4 of the total pedal travel.

[Ultramaroon]

And just upshifting is difficult? Fifth and sixth require a bit of patience. No surprise there.

[blsfrs]

How long has this problem been developing? Any noise or vibration when you depress the clutch pedal? Does it go into reverse without grinding?

[terboboost]

Trans fluid is incredibly important. What type is it filled with?

When you say rev matching, you mean just waiting a moment for the revs to drop before it slides into gear?

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by terboboost

Trans fluid is incredibly important. What type is it filled with?

When you say rev matching, you mean just waiting a moment for the revs to drop before it slides into gear?

Rev matching is the opposite of what you are describing. Blipping the throttle between gears.

[terboboost]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Rev matching is the opposite of what you are describing. Blipping the throttle between gears.

I know, hence my confusion. He's talking about upshifting, you don't blip the throttle on upshift. So "rev matching" must mean just letting the revs fall a bit in between shifts. But this is why I'm asking for clarification.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by terboboost

I know, hence my confusion. He's talking about upshifting, you don't blip the throttle on upshift. So "rev matching" must mean just letting the revs fall a bit in between shifts. But this is why I'm asking for clarification.

I'm reading it as he's talking about up and down.

[GTwice]

Both up and down. I know, when you say rev-matching everyone thinks only of downshifts, but I meant in general - if the revs don't match the gear I want to shift into.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by GTwice

Both up and down. I know, when you say rev-matching everyone thinks only of downshifts, but I meant in general - if the revs don't match the gear I want to shift into.

When you say rev matching, what are you doing for upshifts?

As Ultra said, 5th and 6th you have to be a bit more patient with shifting up and is normal.

[GTwice]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

When you say rev matching, what are you doing for upshifts?

As Ultra said, 5th and 6th you have to be a bit more patient with shifting up and is normal.

I mean that if I upshift too fast or too slow, then as you write - "I need to be a bit more patient". To be honest I'm surprised, because many of you say that's somewhat normal in a Toybaru. I've probably owned 10 MT cars in my life, driven another 10 or 20 different ones, and that's the first time I'm encountering such issue.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by GTwice

I mean that if I upshift too fast or too slow, then as you write - "I need to be a bit more patient". To be honest I'm surprised, because many of you say that's somewhat normal in a Toybaru. I've probably owned 10 MT cars in my life, driven another 10 or 20 different ones, and that's the first time I'm encountering such issue.

It's weird and took me a bit to get used to as well. In my car I can bang it up 1-4 no problem. 5th I have to be much more deliberate with, I can go slow as I want into 5th but I can't go up into 5th too hard or it's not happy. Downshifts with rev matching at speed is normal/habit for me.

Fluid makes a big difference in this car as already mentioned. Do you know what they filled it with?

[Ultramaroon]

Syncro clutches are undersized in this transmission. I also tend to double-clutch my downshifts to avoid having to lean into the gearshift.

Now... It's quite possible that something is wrong so, grain of salt with all this.


edit: How long have you had the car? It really is the fussiest (non-industrial) transmission I've ever operated.