2022+ Ecu cracked?!

[DocWalt]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

Oh boy. Definitely fun reading all the comments. Hopefully someone grabbed the screenshot of the post with the FA20 baseline vs. the FA24 baseline for more details on what the dyno generally reads!

Why is nobody else making peak horsepower gains up top like that with varying headers? Including back to back JDL UEL vs 4-2-1 on the same car on the same dyno...

[RToyo86]

Originally Posted by Rustyoid

so it sounds like I am really missing out on crappy Canadian 91 octane even with the stock tune? When we lost 94 I definitely noticed on a OFT 2+ first gen

Our 91 does also suck. The 91 map with my JDL4-2-1 has an average of 5° advance less over the entire rev range compared to the 94 map.

[Lantanafrs2]

Thr csg gains are significant. Definitely feel those. Dynapacs read lower in general

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Why is nobody else making peak horsepower gains up top like that with varying headers? Including back to back JDL UEL vs 4-2-1 on the same car on the same dyno...

Humble brag. We da best.

[PulsarBeeerz]

CSG dynapack
Stock FA20 vs stock FA24 baselines.

[DocWalt]

Originally Posted by CounterSpace Garage

Humble brag. We da best.

Legitimate question, the 91 octane piss water pulling timing and fixing that is the only thing that makes sense.

or was that 100% stock vs tuned with all of the mods? That *might* make more sense, but we still didn't really see any gains up top from the header.


edit: really not trying to be a ****, for the record. The OTL header dyno was clearly just garbage with a really low baseline that made no sense, just wondering what caused the behavior you guys got that nobody else has gotten.

[drift86]

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Legitimate question, the 91 octane piss water pulling timing and fixing that is the only thing that makes sense.

So we need a 91 vs 93 octane dyno comparison on a stock car to dispel this?

[DocWalt]

Originally Posted by drift86

So we need a 91 vs 93 octane dyno comparison on a stock car to dispel this?

IMO yes, after it's learned.

At least then we'd learn more about why OTL's baseline dyno was 20hp down on the same car...

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Legitimate question, the 91 octane piss water pulling timing and fixing that is the only thing that makes sense.

or was that 100% stock vs tuned with all of the mods? That *might* make more sense, but we still didn't really see any gains up top from the header.


edit: really not trying to be a ****, for the record. The OTL header dyno was clearly just garbage with a really low baseline that made no sense, just wondering what caused the behavior you guys got that nobody else has gotten.

100% stock Subaru BRZ - FA24 on 91 octane

vs.

JDL Bolt-on + Tomei 60S + 91 Octane + EcuTek Tune

Hard to say what other setups will do. Ultimately, the Dynapack we have is our tool to use to develop and understand how the FA24 responds to tuning. The EcuTek BETA is packed with lots of neat things, quite a bit more detailed and extensive than before.

[CounterSpace Garage]

Originally Posted by drift86

So we need a 91 vs 93 octane dyno comparison on a stock car to dispel this?

If someone wants to pay for dyno time and bringing jugs of 93 octane for a dyno runs on their car to see what fresh 91 octane vs fresh 93 octane will do, then sure. We've had race teams haul their racecars across the country to get dyno work done and have brought in their race fuel for optimization as well.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by DocWalt

Why is nobody else making peak horsepower gains up top like that with varying headers? Including back to back JDL UEL vs 4-2-1 on the same car on the same dyno...

Because that's a LOT of time and money.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Because that's a LOT of time and money.

Mike, will you be tracking a tuned car in the future and disclosing lap time improvement?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Mike, will you be tracking a tuned car in the future and disclosing lap time improvement?

As my schedule allows, yes. Other automotive/motorsport obligations unfortunately take priority over driving 86's for fun at the track.

[DriveDriftDogfight86]

Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

CSG dynapack
Stock FA20 vs stock FA24 baselines.

Pardon my ignorance, as I've never actually used a dyno before....but is that dyno speaking some entirely different language than most? A stock FRS is 150whp? It's losing 25% of its power to drivetrain loss, wtf?

Why is this article below from people who've done over 1,000 FRS/BRZ/86 dyno runs stating that a GR86 makes 221.25whp SAE, (and is truly underrated making roughly 260hp at the flywheel) compared to the 187whp shown here. That's a big difference. Is the car underrated or not?

https://dsportmag.com/the-cars/first...2-toyota-gr86/