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Old 08-02-2012, 03:17 PM   #267
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The scans are being uploaded now and hope it clears up a lot of confusion.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:28 PM   #268
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Ok so here we go!

This is:
Baseline
Stock w/ pulley only
Stock w/ catback only

The pulley run and the catback run pretty much overlap identically





Next up is:
Baseline
Agency power header, midpipe, and cat back only
Agency power header, midpipe, cat back, and pulley only

Cutting rotational mass on these cars is a HUGE improvement



Cut and dice it however you like. I foresee this car having tons of potential come flashes and intakes. The header alone isn't picking up any power, but should easily once the engine is breathing a bit better. You would see similar result on most 4 cylinders in that case anyway.

So at the end of the day there are some runs that we haven't done and im sure we will do the testing on our own car further more to give each individual scenario in more detail. Getting a customers car on and off the dyno and installing and removing parts all day for two days was a lot of work and we ended up hitting a wall. Who would want their frs back on a friday night with new parts on it to go and drive around? Sheesh! Another big delay was the car began to throw error codes in sport mode from the front wheels not spinning in conjunction with the rears so we would have to pull it off the dyno, reset the ecu, then drive around for a little bit to get it to clear. This setback is when the time crunch kicked in and the pulley was installed to get the last of the runs done. I definitely think the full exhaust minus the pulley has more potential in it, however at the end of the day it was an NA 4 cylinder on 91 octane heat soaked in 108 degree weather. It looks pretty dang good in my book

On a side note once we get this bad boy finished up our car would be back on the dyno for everyone's enjoyment.




Oh and photoshoot coming soon?






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Old 08-02-2012, 03:47 PM   #270
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So looks like 26+hp. I wonder what an additional intake and tune will give it?

Thanks Vivid

P.S. How hard would it be to get a video of a race between this and a stock car? lol
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:00 PM   #272
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At this point any video at all would be good. Really want to see some drive by's and such
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+13whp delta from stock to catback and a +9whp delta from header, mid, and catback.


1)Do you think that's from the heat soak?
2) Josh, you mentioned the header alone won't show much gains, but wouldn't it at least show something? Lachute's showed what, a 10whp gain with just that alone.

I'm curious as to why a more free flowing header (from stock) would result in less of a gain


EDIT: not trying to bash or start anything again.. This is the first I've posted in any of the AGP threads. I'm trying to look for products with the most gains, so I'm just wondering.
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Ok so here we go!

This is:
Baseline
Stock w/ pulley only
Stock w/ catback only

The pulley run and the catback run pretty much overlap identically





Next up is:
Baseline
Agency power header, midpipe, and cat back only
Agency power header, midpipe, cat back, and pulley only

Cutting rotational mass on these cars is a HUGE improvement



Cut and dice it however you like. I foresee this car having tons of potential come flashes and intakes. The header alone isn't picking up any power, but should easily once the engine is breathing a bit better. You would see similar result on most 4 cylinders in that case anyway.

So at the end of the day there are some runs that we haven't done and im sure we will do the testing on our own car further more to give each individual scenario in more detail. Getting a customers car on and off the dyno and installing and removing parts all day for two days was a lot of work and we ended up hitting a wall. Who would want their frs back on a friday night with new parts on it to go and drive around? Sheesh! Another big delay was the car began to throw error codes in sport mode from the front wheels not spinning in conjunction with the rears so we would have to pull it off the dyno, reset the ecu, then drive around for a little bit to get it to clear. This setback is when the time crunch kicked in and the pulley was installed to get the last of the runs done. I definitely think the full exhaust minus the pulley has more potential in it, however at the end of the day it was an NA 4 cylinder on 91 octane heat soaked in 108 degree weather. It looks pretty dang good in my book

On a side note once we get this bad boy finished up our car would be back on the dyno for everyone's enjoyment.




Oh and photoshoot coming soon?






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Mmmmm that wheel gap looks SEXY! (yes I know it's on a lift. I'm joking).

Once again, thanks for all of the hard work you guys have put into this.
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Was there two baselines? The two Travis baselines look different on those two graphs?

How did the full exhaust lose power compared to just catback?

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Tempted to go intake, pulley, crosspipe, and catback for now.
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How did the full exhaust lose power compared to just catback?

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Was there two baselines? The two Travis baselines look different on those two graphs?

How did the full exhaust lose power compared to just catback?

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Agree. Maybe something funky with that header as it almost gets no gains and reduces the rest of the exhausts gain when added.

Interesting to see the pulley make so much. Everything they have shown us has it between 12 and 14 WHP on top of anything it is added to.
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Was there two baselines? The two Travis baselines look different on those two graphs?

How did the full exhaust lose power compared to just catback?

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exactly what i was wondering. Posted about it too, lol.

looks like there were 2 different bases? 1st one has 1whp less for max.
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