Today I Learned...

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I've given up on battery powered tools. My 35-year-old corded drill chugs along like new.

Typical wookiee.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I've given up on battery powered tools. My 35-year-old corded drill chugs along like new.

I have a 25 year old Dewalt 20 volt contractor grade adjustable hammer drill that still soldiers on like new. Both batteries still take a full charge.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have a 25 year old Dewalt 20 volt contractor grade adjustable hammer drill that still soldiers on like new. Both batteries still take a full charge.

I call bullshit. How often do you use it?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I call bullshit. How often do you use it?

Not much anymore but a shitload for about 15 years.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not much anymore but a shitload for about 15 years.

That's pretty damn amazing. NONE of mine have lasted more than five years. Hang onto that unicorn.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

That's pretty damn amazing. NONE of mine have lasted more than five years. Hang onto that unicorn.

I had a Makita that went 25 years. Drill was still good, just didn't want to invest in old tech replacement batteries. At 25 years the one remaining of the two original batteries finally bit the dust.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

That's pretty damn amazing. NONE of mine have lasted more than five years. Hang onto that unicorn.

I always totally discharged the batteries after each use then recharged for a couple of hours when I needed it again. It never sat more than a couple of days (during an ongoing project) with charged batteries. Not sure if that is why they have lasted so long.

I have got rid of all my corded tools. Have a medium quality skillsaw, reciprocating saw, drill and impact that are pushing 10 years old and still good. Both my home and cottage lawnmowers are 40 volt. My weed eater and leaf blower are both 20 volt using the same batteries as the mowers. I just got a 16"chainsaw that is also on the same 40 volt system. They all work well and since I got 1 or 2 batteries with each I have a shitload so there are always several ready to go. The modern batteries are half the size with twice the length of operation and I will never buy a corded tool again.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I've given up on battery powered tools. My 35-year-old corded drill chugs along like new.

We don't even use air let alone something corded at work very often anymore.

[Ultramaroon]

You three in particular, know that I'm downright anal about my battery chemistry. I'll ditch the cord when I can easily replace the cells in my batteries without risk of fire due to incompatibility. Right now, battery packs are to cordless tools as cartridges were to ink jet printers. It's bullshit.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

You three in particular, know that I'm downright anal about my battery chemistry. I'll ditch the cord when I can easily replace the cells in my batteries without risk of fire due to incompatibility. Right now, battery packs are to cordless tools as cartridges were to ink jet printers. It's bullshit.

Almost everything is 18650. Just stay away from the cells with fingerprints in the kapton tape.

A lot of the big battery banks for the off the grid campers are just stacks and stacks of 18650's series' and parallelled together to get desired voltage and capacity.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

I didn't know they made screw drivers or socket sets.

dewalt's always made some of the more typical stuff. i'm not a big dewalt fan, my dad got burned on the 1+ year turnaround times on their older 18v drill repairs. at one point he had 4 drills circulating the repair circuit...

milwaukee in about the last 3-4 years has just started pushing to make all sorts of hand tools, but most of what they make, they're pushing to disrupt the market in one way or another. i think they had great success in the electrical/plumbing industry, and are looking to expand to other trade markets. they actually have reps that are somewhat visible/available to talk to, so i end up hearing more from them. they're doing externally-square sockets so they don't roll away, better laser etching/paint to more easily see the size marks, and have made a ton of progress in terms of warranty replacements--they're actually replacing individual pieces, and less than 2 months turnaround these days.

3 years ago, i threw away a screwdriver set in front of the milwaukee rep. i used 1 screwdriver out of the kit for it's features for the 6 months it lasted, it eventually broke, tried the 'lifetime warranty' , they said they required for a warranty replacement i had to bring in all 8 screwdrivers. i told him "this is where i think of milwaukee hand tools belong, i'm buying klein instead, they warranty individual screwdrivers..."

of course, i can't complain about klein. i've purchased 2 tape measures, 5 years ago. they just keep warranty-replacing the broken one's. i'm up to about 15...

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

For eight years ending in 1983 I worked for a division of AEG Telefunken. In the last years I was there they became a warehouse/service center/retail outlet for AEG power tools. I don't know about today but back then I couldn't afford even their entry level electric drill.

without digging any further than this picture, they look to now be a rigid re-brand, which is considered competitive in terms of tool quality and power, but rigid as a brand has always been lacking in tool options, which makes tends to make them a lesser brand for contractors just because we end up needing to add other brands and battery ecosystem tools to our trucks to perform tasks the first brand doesn't offer a tool for... and if i'm already using that other brand for that specific tool, it's not a stretch to start using that same brand for other more common tools...

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

The m12 milwaukee tools are perfect for the homeowner, DIYer who will use them a dozen or two times a year. If your going to use the tool everyday making a living, different story.

what would you suggest for using every day?

my m12 surge is part of my every day tool belt

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

You three in particular, know that I'm downright anal about my battery chemistry. I'll ditch the cord when I can easily replace the cells in my batteries without risk of fire due to incompatibility. Right now, battery packs are to cordless tools as cartridges were to ink jet printers. It's bullshit.

speaking of, i was trying to locate parts for a all-in-one m18 radio that can use the battery for power and also charge it. stumbled across ebay listings for all of the components except batteries for those copy-cat m18 batteries..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/14466093022...Bk9SR5KRvqXwYA


they've got m12 battery kits as well
https://www.ebay.com/itm/12511446389...Bk9SR-TWyKXwYA



i'm still thinking how i could use it. a charger/balancer controller that's built around a standardized charger is too cool not to use in a project somewhere...

[JD001]

Today I learned that Americans are more confident when it comes to unarmed combat against animals..

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by soundman98

what would you suggest for using every day?

my m12 surge is part of my every day tool belt

I have no idea. I sat at a desk for 30+ years.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by JD001

Today I learned that Americans are more confident when it comes to unarmed combat against animals..

TIL That both the British and Americans are way over confident when it comes to fighting an angry goose!