follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-23-2022, 08:47 PM   #1
tobsadness
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Drives: 2015 BRZ
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Messed Up Bell Housing Bolts

Hi everyone,

In short: I've made mistakes, wondering how bad they are.

Background info: the throw out bearing completely went in my BRZ, and I thought I could drop the transmission, replace it and the clutch myself. I had some serious trouble getting the transmission on and off, and a lot of frustration-induced bad decision-making ensued. The car is back together and I went for a tiny test drive, but two of the bell housing connections are seriously messed up.

One of the nuts on the bottom studs started turning really hard about halfway through. I kept drawing it up, not knowing what else to do, and cracked a piece off the corner of the engine by continuing to draw it up. It's drawn up, but obviously that's bad. The piece that chipped off is the outer corner around the stud, I'd say it's maybe around the size of a nickel.

The bolt on the top driver's side will not draw up. It turned hard the entire way, but didn't know what else to do so I continued to tighten it. It's a ways in now and set up so bad I don't dare try to turn it anymore. The head of the bolt is maybe 2mm away from actually contacting the housing.

I guess I'm wondering how bad you all perceive this to be. I'm imagining there's a spectrum of bad-ness between "do NOT drive it again until you've fixed this" to "well, yeah, that's quite bad, but it is drivable, just take it easy".

The issue being that the car is currently my daily driver and only vehicle. I had planned to have another car before attempting this, but my new car is unsurprisingly very late to be delivered and the throw out bearing was completely shot.

Poor choices I know I made were A) prying excessively hard to pull the transmission off (it was set up on something else and I didn't realize it) and B) drawing the transmission back on with the bolts (couldn't get it to go back on otherwise and I still don't understand why).

Other miscellaneous info about the vehicle: 2015 BRZ, 100k miles, winter driven every year I've owned it. Supercharger and other standard bolt-ons. So needless to say it's not otherwise brand-new, if that affects the answer at all.

Thank you very much for the advice.
tobsadness is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tobsadness For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-24-2022)
Old 09-24-2022, 08:35 AM   #2
22R
22R
 
22R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: 2012 Camry SE 2017 Toyota 86
Location: South Louisiana
Posts: 236
Thanks: 233
Thanked 141 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
O' Boy !!! Lil late but if a Fastner that you know is not tight feels tight..stop. As afar as driveabilty IDK. If not leaking any fluid and it moves without making weird noises try a gentle drive to see if it feels and sounds OK. Take it to a repair shop as soon as you get a new car. Do not attempt more mechaic work....not for you

22R
22R is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to 22R For This Useful Post:
humfrz (09-24-2022), x808drifter (09-24-2022)
Old 09-24-2022, 07:39 PM   #3
EndlessAzure
Wheels for Brains
 
EndlessAzure's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Drives: '14 FR-S [37J] | Daily/Track
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 941
Thanks: 121
Thanked 643 Times in 394 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Not sure what to tell you. Damaging the engine is obviously a bad thing to do. Images would help a lot. You can already see the damage from the missing piece of engine. With regard to the bolt that's not seating fully, I'm going to gander that you likely stripped out the threads of the engine block.
- The missing material may or may not matter. It might take time, effort, and possibly some money to fix the bung threads on the engine block. Would consult an experienced mechanic on it.


Forcing a transmission on could mean many things. You could also have pushed the pilot bearing out of the flywheel if things were misaligned enough. If you missed an alignment pin, then the transmission may not have not been fully clocked in and seated. The bell housing should be flat against the engine once everything is seated. All the bolts should thread on easy and the bell housing should draw toward the engine without too much effort.


The mistake most people make when working on the transmission was that they did not support the front of the engine. When you take the transmission out, the engine has no rear support and flops forward. This means the flywheel side is pointing slightly upward. When you work with the transmission from underneath, it's only practical for the transmission to be straight-and-level or pointing slightly downward. That means they are hopelessly misaligned. You'll have to rely on a lot of luck to get them back into alignment without this knowledge, or some help with getting the engine back to level.

Last edited by EndlessAzure; 09-24-2022 at 07:51 PM.
EndlessAzure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2022, 08:56 PM   #4
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 30,402
Thanks: 29,782
Thanked 32,802 Times in 16,826 Posts
Mentioned: 714 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tobsadness View Post
Hi everyone,

In short: I've made mistakes, wondering how bad they are.


Thank you very much for the advice.
Hello tobsadness and welcome to our forum -

That is a tough first post -

I suggest you take your car into a transmission shop and have them "fix" the messed up bolts and other parts.

Sorry, but that ain't gonna be cheap -
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post:
22R (09-24-2022), x808drifter (09-25-2022)
Old 09-25-2022, 02:07 AM   #5
alphasaur
friendly
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Drives: 17' 86
Location: Dutchess County, NY
Posts: 734
Thanks: 1,483
Thanked 483 Times in 293 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Depending on where you live in NY, I would suggest AZP in new jersey.
__________________
Seek comfort in discomfort.
alphasaur is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How bad did I screw up my bell housing? DigitalVeil92 Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 33 08-12-2022 01:06 AM
Rubber Cover Fell Into Transmission Bell Housing trinidadj Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 15 06-30-2021 12:58 PM
FS: Verus Bell Housing Cover skylinekin Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 2 09-07-2018 11:21 PM
PTE 6466, 1.0 divided A/R, polished comp housing, black ceramic turbine housing slicktop Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 6 10-17-2015 11:53 PM
Clutch squeak inside bell housing? hukdizzle Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 18 07-18-2015 12:54 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.