Any PC Gamers Around?

[soundman98]

i'm just really surprised they were so quick to outright drop the entire division instead of migrating to a different chipset.

i've never been opposed to their motherboards, but they've always had very few offerings there that aren't extremely competitive price-wise, and then i've never even considered them for power supplies... i guess i knew they made power supplies, just never noticed, which is good and bad.

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i'm just really surprised they were so quick to outright drop the entire division instead of migrating to a different chipset.

i've never been opposed to their motherboards, but they've always had very few offerings there that aren't extremely competitive price-wise, and then i've never even considered them for power supplies... i guess i knew they made power supplies, just never noticed, which is good and bad.

Well, Intel GPUs are basically non-existent or they know their product is basically crap and keep dancing around it until they get their driver software sorted out. The latest news on their GPU, from their CEO, were "We'll be releasing our GPUs, soon, somewhere in the world" doesn't particularly give customers a warm and fuzzy.



AMD would be their other customer, but EVGAs CEO really just wants out and made his opinion very clear about it.



There are so many players in the PC components game, that I'm sure there are other companies that I haven't heard about. PSUs are pretty much the same across the board, and as long as you have the right Watt rating, doesn't really matter the brand. I basically came across a brand and stuck to it (Corsair).

[spcmafia]

Holy, those new specs for Ada-Lovelace are impressive. Watching the NVIDIA keynot for their new GPUs.



76 billion transistors, 18,000 CUDA cores, over 70% more than the previous Ampere generation. It includes a 90 teraflops streaming processor, built on TSMC 4N. Also includes Shader Execution Reordering (SER), which apparently can improve 2-3 fold boost in ray tracing performance.

[weederr33]

That’s impressive. I’m curious to see how AMD does

[spcmafia]

Price range
4090-$1599 October 12*
NVIDIA claims the 4090 can be as 2 or 4 times faster than even a 3090ti.*
4080-$899 TBD

4070-TBD
4060-TBD


Looks like power consumption will hit 450W, but with a much higher performance and efficiency. Also, both 4080 and 4090 claim big numbers and big gains, but, according to Tomshardware "
RTX 4080 is up to three times faster than RTX 3080 in RacerX, though obviously that's using DLSS and extreme RT effects." So the question is, without DLSS, how do these cards measure up. Not all games support DLSS.

[weederr33]

We all know those prices won’t be accurate and it will be the same shit of NVIDIA not caring since they will make insane profits. I anticipate another scalping massacre.

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by weederr33

We all know those prices won’t be accurate and it will be the same shit of NVIDIA not caring since they will make insane profits. I anticipate another scalping massacre.

I want to say yes, but it will most likely be the first month or so. The biggest price driver last time was Ethereum mining and what not. With that pretty much dead, scalpers will only be able to hold on to stock only for so long. Plus I don't think the demand will be as higher now that getting a 3000 series will be a killer deal.

Most scalpers are still trying to sell GPUs at a loss on Ebay, so I don't foresee them venturing into yet another GPU game. But for the first month or so, yeah, it will be hard to get one. I'd have absolutely no rush for a 4080. I'm also waiting for AMD, most important for benchmarks from TsH.

[MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires]

hopefully crypto continues its spiral into nothingness

[elBarto]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

Ah, turns out that EVGA, is also in part doing this because now that mining is pretty much dead, there's no sense in pushing so much product out. Thus can't buy cards from NVIDIA as much as they did back in 2020. Which is weird because EVGA themselves started throttling the mining capabilities to 50% at one point.

They also had a "gamers" waitinglist, everbody on that list could buy a GPU around MSRP (at same time that a GPU would cost 3 times MSRP), you just needed to be very patient.
Which is also a weird thing to do if you only would care for miners and profit.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

hopefully crypto continues its spiral into nothingness

Hopefully it's a quick spiral

[Captain Snooze]

AMD launches their cards on the 3rd November. One site has suggested AMD's current series (6xxx) will drop further in price. I can purchase one now for an acceptable price or wait for them to maybe drop in price and become unavailable. One site I've been watching has recently (2 days?) completely sold out of 6800XTs and won't be getting any more.


There seems to be quite a mark up over US prices in Aus for the new Nvidia 4000 cards.
RTX 4090 (24GB) – AU$2,959
RTX 4080 (16GB) – AU$2,219
RTX 4080 (12GB) – AU$1,659

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by elBarto

They also had a "gamers" waitinglist, everbody on that list could buy a GPU around MSRP (at same time that a GPU would cost 3 times MSRP), you just needed to be very patient.
Which is also a weird thing to do if you only would care for miners and profit.

Yep, that's how I got a 3060ti, took about 10 months. They seemed to have the best purchase system back on the worse days of supply issues. We will never know how many they reserved for their waiting list and how many they sold in bulk.

At the same time, they even made more money from their top tier program where you basically had to spend an X amount of money in order to get first dibs on their list, which can be translated to what Walmart+, Best Buy Total Pro is.

It sucks to lose one of the best customer services for GPUs and pretty solid quality, like I said, is business, and business wasn't doing great once demand fell and supply recovered.

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

AMD launches their cards on the 3rd November. One site has suggested AMD's current series (6xxx) will drop further in price. I can purchase one now for an acceptable price or wait for them to maybe drop in price and become unavailable. One site I've been watching has recently (2 days?) completely sold out of 6800XTs and won't be getting any more.


There seems to be quite a mark up over US prices in Aus for the new Nvidia 4000 cards.
RTX 4090 (24GB) – AU$2,959
RTX 4080 (16GB) – AU$2,219
RTX 4080 (12GB) – AU$1,659

A week or so after their new GPUs release would be a great time to start looking for deals. Even events like black-Friday or cyber Monday. Even the holidays.



I'm absolutely happy with my 6900XT and it'll take years until I have to upgrade, but if the new generation can provide way better performance at a more efficient rate, I wouldn't mind upgrading within the next few months. I just want to see benchmarks before I make any decisions.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

I'm absolutely happy with my 6900XT and it'll take years until I have to upgrade, but if the new generation can provide way better performance at a more efficient rate, I wouldn't mind upgrading within the next few months. I just want to see benchmarks before I make any decisions.

I've mentioned before I'm yet to see a game where I thought ray tracing made a difference. I've also mentioned on the few modern games I've played I haven't been able to tell much difference, if any, between maximum graphic settings and medium settings. My thinking, maybe justification, is that I don't need a next gen card, the current gen will fulfill my wants for some time to come. Certainly it's time for me to say goodbye to my 1080ti.

I'm also up for a new PSU. The 3 least expensive cards I'm looking at have a minimum recommend PSU rating of 800W and 750W.

@spcmafia What is your PSU rated at?