Opting for the N1 system but want to know about headers and tune - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

KiokenFRS · 04-05-2022, 12:43 PM

My stock frs is my baby, so I got a chance to see an FRS with some upgrades and I really enjoyed it. The kid said he had header + tune + N1 exhaust and I absolutely loved the sound of that N1.

So odds are good I will opt for the n1 system, however, I would like some advice on the header and tune options for this N1 set. Would swapping into a new header + a tune be a wise option if I drop in the N1?

Your thoughts appreciated. Truly, I want extra pickup but I am not out to race or anything like that. My biggest concern is merging on to the highway from a dead stop. I really do need that extra kick into speed for merging, as I do it often and it really stresses me out that my stock frs doesn't pick up as nicely as I want it to.

So for that reason, I am willing to tune + header + N1 if need be, but just wanted some opinions from others who had this setup as well, and what your thoughts on it would be.

Tcoat · 04-05-2022, 12:51 PM

You are not going to get much of a kick from just a header and tune. Hardly be noticeable really. If you like the sound just stick to the stock tune and header with the "upgraded" exhaust.

WNDSRFR · 04-05-2022, 01:26 PM

Keep your eye out for a used Phantom ESC.
It sounds like exactly what you're looking for.

RToyo86 · 04-05-2022, 01:32 PM

Header + tune won't add a ton of power. Car pulls to redline and revs smoother through the entire rev range.
15-20whp up top.
If you have access to E85 add another 10-20whp. You can feel the difference with an E85 tune over stock.

Catback makes noise, entirely optional mod, but worth it if you like and can live with the sound.
Beyond that you need boost or else you are trying to squeeze water from a rock.

Decep · 04-05-2022, 05:30 PM

The header will help a lot in the midrange, especially if you happen to downshift into the torque dip often. But from a dead stop i don't think it's gonna be a zomgvtec mod.

KiokenFRS · 04-05-2022, 06:26 PM

I appreciate all the help so far. If the option I listed isn't good for a faster pull from stop, what would be the best route for me? I've a $2500 budget. What can/should I do for that.

The Exhaust sound is not particularly important to me, more like a desire. But the extra pull off the full stop zone is definitely needed in my area. I am fine with a turbocharge if that is even in my budget these days, or a tune, or whatever else can be done to improve this.

ty in advance if anyone can help

Lantanafrs2 · 04-05-2022, 07:55 PM

My car has header and e85 tune with stock catback. It's quiet and will leave a stocker in dust.

x808drifter · 04-05-2022, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KiokenFRS

I appreciate all the help so far. If the option I listed isn't good for a faster pull from stop, what would be the best route for me? I've a $2500 budget. What can/should I do for that.

The Exhaust sound is not particularly important to me, more like a desire. But the extra pull off the full stop zone is definitely needed in my area. I am fine with a turbocharge if that is even in my budget these days, or a tune, or whatever else can be done to improve this.

ty in advance if anyone can help

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KiokenFRS · 04-05-2022, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by x808drifter

Change Final Drive.
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On an automatic? Hmm, I never thought of this. I dont ever use the paddle shifters, this is my daily. I'll look into this.

KiokenFRS · 04-05-2022, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

My car has header and e85 tune with stock catback. It's quiet and will leave a stocker in dust.

What header do you have and how much did your kit cost?

jflogerzi · 04-06-2022, 02:00 AM

Don't get the N1. You ears will thank you.

Get Headers (look for used to save $$) JDL UEL is my pick(catless)
Get Axleback for sound
Get open flash Tablet
Used e85 if its readily available.

PulsarBeeerz · 04-06-2022, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KiokenFRS

On an automatic? Hmm, I never thought of this. I dont ever use the paddle shifters, this is my daily. I'll look into this.

A higher final drive will make the biggest difference on an auto. A 4.88 conversion seems popular and doesn't hurt mpg.

Lantanafrs2 · 04-06-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KiokenFRS

What header do you have and how much did your kit cost?

I found a used open flash header. The header and the tablet cost a total of 750.

WNDSRFR · 04-06-2022, 09:13 AM

How about this?

https://torqamp.com/

It's a little over your budget but it'll get the job done with no BS.
And you can be the guinea pig.

04-05-2022, 12:43 PM	#1
KiokenFRS Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Drives: FRS Location: Ohio Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Opting for the N1 system but want to know about headers and tune My stock frs is my baby, so I got a chance to see an FRS with some upgrades and I really enjoyed it. The kid said he had header + tune + N1 exhaust and I absolutely loved the sound of that N1. So odds are good I will opt for the n1 system, however, I would like some advice on the header and tune options for this N1 set. Would swapping into a new header + a tune be a wise option if I drop in the N1? Your thoughts appreciated. Truly, I want extra pickup but I am not out to race or anything like that. My biggest concern is merging on to the highway from a dead stop. I really do need that extra kick into speed for merging, as I do it often and it really stresses me out that my stock frs doesn't pick up as nicely as I want it to. So for that reason, I am willing to tune + header + N1 if need be, but just wanted some opinions from others who had this setup as well, and what your thoughts on it would be.

04-05-2022, 12:51 PM	#2
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	You are not going to get much of a kick from just a header and tune. Hardly be noticeable really. If you like the sound just stick to the stock tune and header with the "upgraded" exhaust. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

04-05-2022, 05:30 PM	#5
Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The header will help a lot in the midrange, especially if you happen to downshift into the torque dip often. But from a dead stop i don't think it's gonna be a zomgvtec mod. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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Lantanafrs2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Drives: 2013 frs red Location: South Florida Posts: 3,576 Thanks: 2,585 Thanked 3,140 Times in 1,689 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	My car has header and e85 tune with stock catback. It's quiet and will leave a stocker in dust. Last edited by Lantanafrs2; 04-05-2022 at 08:53 PM.

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WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 235 Thanked 868 Times in 442 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Keep your eye out for a used Phantom ESC. It sounds like exactly what you're looking for.

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RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,391 Thanks: 1,885 Thanked 2,636 Times in 1,288 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Header + tune won't add a ton of power. Car pulls to redline and revs smoother through the entire rev range. 15-20whp up top. If you have access to E85 add another 10-20whp. You can feel the difference with an E85 tune over stock. Catback makes noise, entirely optional mod, but worth it if you like and can live with the sound. Beyond that you need boost or else you are trying to squeeze water from a rock.

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KiokenFRS Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Drives: FRS Location: Ohio Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I appreciate all the help so far. If the option I listed isn't good for a faster pull from stop, what would be the best route for me? I've a $2500 budget. What can/should I do for that. The Exhaust sound is not particularly important to me, more like a desire. But the extra pull off the full stop zone is definitely needed in my area. I am fine with a turbocharge if that is even in my budget these days, or a tune, or whatever else can be done to improve this. ty in advance if anyone can help

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WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 235 Thanked 868 Times in 442 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How about this? https://torqamp.com/ It's a little over your budget but it'll get the job done with no BS. And you can be the guinea pig.

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