Again: No Turbo, No Convertible for US FR-S

[Skyhound]

Originally Posted by post_break

Head in the sand. Look at the Lotus Exige. When it first came out Lotus was all "Oh no we're not going to go forced induction." The next year the Exige S comes out that is supercharged.

That car is lighter than the 86 and they just bolted on 28 more HP, and 20 more pounds of torque.

To think that the 86 won't get forced induction is crazy. A Fiat 500 can get a turbo but an 86 won't from the factory?

I never said the 86 wasn't going to get forced induction at all. Where did you read that lol? I said that a super charger would be more appropriate because the turbo would ruin the balance of the care with turbo lag.

Also, TRD much prefers S/C over T/C for that very reason. There will probably a TRD Supercharger developed for the FR-S, but it won't be a part of any trim level, just a factory add-on.

[lokvo]

Having never owned a turbo'd car, is it really needed if you don't track the car? would it be more of a status, bragging rights thing? First thing the dudes I know ask is, "that thang thur got turbo?" Lol

[FRSowner]

Being that the current Boxer engine has 12.5:1 compression, putting on a turbo or SC will force you to do some major engine or head work to lower the CR or run very little boost, which negates the reason for a turbo or SC. You will also have to adjust or completely redo the valve timing of the engine to take full advantage of FI.
It will be interesting to see how the aftermarket deals with this and their results.

[sbxjap]

I think it's a lot to do with pricing as well.

There are already a lot of people who think the car is overpriced... Still, there are plenty who will pay for factory installed options.

Another thing is that Scion tries not to carry super expensive cars.... Easy fix. Remove Scion FRS, introduce Toyota 86. Or use theGT86 name.

[SUB-FT86]

I realize that article said nothing about a possible 2.5L.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by post_break

You're only saying this because you already bought your car. To say that a factory turbo is a bad idea has to be one of the most delusional statements I've heard on these forums.

Its sad that people feel that a optional turbocharged variant would ruin this car. I think they fear it will get more press and the N/A variants hype will die down significantly. I'm pretty sure if done right the turbocharged one will be considered the worlds best sports car under 35k. It would be the true definition of a poor mans cayman S.

[whtchocla7e]

I'll take a 2.5L over Turbo, as long as there's not too much weight penalty.

[ngabdala]

I tend to agree. Any news of a turbo would cause people to hold off on buying a current model. Many years of research and development funding $$$ went into this car so the more first model year cars they sell the better for them. Subsequent model years will cost them much less to manufacture.

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Its sad that people feel that a optional turbocharged variant would ruin this car. I think they fear it will get more press and the N/A variants hype will die down significantly. I'm pretty sure if done right the turbocharged one will be considered the worlds best sports car under 35k. It would be the true definition of a poor mans cayman S.

[TPO]

Originally Posted by MVJ1975

The aftermarket is merrily working on giving us both turbo and supercharged flavors. I'd personally love a dealer-installed TRD supercharger, and hopefully we'll get one.

And when it comes I will be the first to stock them.

[post_break]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I'm pretty sure if done right the turbocharged one will be considered the worlds best sports car under 35k. It would be the true definition of a poor mans cayman S.

Poor mans cayman? No, poor mans Lotus. If only they could shave another 600 pounds off the car!

[JohnATL]

Originally Posted by post_break

Poor mans cayman? No, poor mans Lotus. If only they could shave another 600 pounds off the car!

Not sure about 600lbs but I think we can shave 300lbs easily.

[chulooz]

Lots of people are jumping on the turbo-hate-wagon... afraid of lag?

Uht oh, dont drive your N/A between 3,500-4,500rpm, this car has N/A lag! But the solution is easy, shift. You can shift in a turbo car too.

[JTM]

You guys are funny, this is all just bench racing. I look forward to whatever kit TRD decides to pick and I'll be happy to buy when they finally do.

Nissan and Toyota have frustrated me for years by offering different version and better preforming engines buy not bringing them to the states. Though, I am not surprised and this has become the norm for most Auto and MC mfg.

[Tanuki]

I am a supercharger fan. I have had plenty of turbo and SC cars. I like NA, I won't lie, but if they made a good sc application, I would be excited.